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Hero of Twilight Gap
One of the last members of the Iron Lords

"I am the lone sentry. And my watch is eternal."
— Saladin Forge[1]

Lord Saladin Forge is a Titan Guardian and one of two known survivors of the original Iron Lords. He was one of the founders of the Iron Lords and helped end the Dark Age of Risen Warlords to establish the City Age. However, most of his comrades perished in a battle to contain SIVA, causing Saladin to dedicate his life to maintaining a watch on the Plaguelands to ensure SIVA never emerged again while also fighting to protect The Last City from threats. In time, he established the Iron Banner to keep the memory of the fallen Iron Lords alive and train the new Guardians in the ways of old. When the House of Devils uncovered SIVA and unleashed it upon the Cosmodrome, Saladin worked with The Young Wolf to end the threat of SIVA for good and begin a new generation of Iron Lords.

After sitting out of the Red War due to lacking his Light, Saladin watched for several years as the Vanguard struggled against new threats and the Arrival of the Black Fleet. When the Cabal Empress Caiatl arrived and sought to subjugate humanity, Saladin was tasked by Zavala with leading a strike force to keep her from rallying her forces.


Lord of Iron[edit]

Rise of the Iron Lords[edit]

"My Ghost woke me on the battlefields of Russia much like yours did. I quickly learned to deal death before it came for me."
— Saladin

Saladin was found and raised by his Ghost in Old Russia during the Dark Age, at which point most of humanity was scattered and lived under the ruthless rule of other Lightbearers who had become Warlords. Saladin befriended three other Risen who did not follow the Warlord's path; Radegast, Jolder, and Perun. Together under Radegast's leadership they hid from the Warlords in isolated communities and feared other Lightbearers, and only occasionally struck against the oppressive rulers. When the mining community they were staying at was assaulted by five Warlords, Saladin and the others fought and killed them, but the civilians they sheltered with were all killed in ensuring battled. As they buried the bodies, Saladin listened as Radegast declared they could no longer live in fear of the Warlords and must become Guardians of the people, gathering likeminded Risen to aid them. While Jolder and Perun suggested recruiting Bretomart and Deidris, Saladin told Radegast he trusted only him. Together, they declared themselves the Iron Lords and vowed to bring an end to the rule of the Warlords.[2]

Saving Patch Run[edit]

Saladin battling the Fallen
"I make it my duty to patrol this area. I thought crushing that Fallen House every week would dissuade them. They keep returning."
— Saladin about defending Patch Run

As the Iron Lords began to recruit, Saladin left to defend to the village of Patch Run from a Fallen House that frequently assaulted it. He was unexpectedly joined by Efrideet, a Lightbearer whom he did not entirely trust. As they finished off a band of Fallen on a cliffside near the town, Efrideet declared she was out of ammo and Saladin stated that she could leave the rest to him. He dodged her question about why he did not trust her and rebuffed her interest in joining the Iron Lords by declaring that he was searching for more than just Lightbearers who could shoot. He turned towards the town and informed her that it had forty-three inhabitants, only half of whom were capable of fighting. Efrideet softly said that it was hardly even a village, but Saladin retorted that they lived a noble life. He admitted that they were under constant attack from a Fallen House in a nearby bunker that he routinely assaulted in hopes of driving them away, but so far nothing had worked. As they spoke, a Fallen Skiff roared by and dropped a Walker into the field between the village and bunker. Without ammo, Saladin was at a loss of what to do, with the Walker being out of range of his Light powers and the time it would take to climb down surely dooming the village. However, Efrideet offered to throw him, causing Saladin to laugh until he realized she was serious and declared there was no dignity in that. She pointed out there was no dignity in letting the village die either.[3]

Saladin agreed to Efrideet's plan and began to warn her not to miss as he gathered Arc energy around himself. He was cut off when she suddenly hoisted him over her head, gathering her own Light for the throw. Their combined Arc Light caused the mountain to begin rumbling as she charged forward and launched Saladin through the air, and he teared across the sky and through the clouds as an Arc missile.[4] Efrideet's aim proved true and Saladin destroyed the Walker, saving Patch Run. He was revived by his Ghost as Efrideet arrived at the field and mocked him for thinking she might miss. Admitting he had never seen her miss a shot before as he wondered what had taken her so long to reach him, Efrideet revealed a few Fallen had survived the Arc strike. Alarmed, he asked where they were now, but she reassured him none had made it to the village. With a newfound respect for Efrideet, Saladin admitted that someone with her skills and moral compass would be welcome in the Iron Lords. However, she only agreed to join if he promised she could throw him again if they ran out of ammo once more. He told Efrideet to meet them at Dwindler's Ridge and when she questioned how many of them there were he smirked and answered "a few".[5]

Dragons and Warlords[edit]

"Why in the Traveler’s crack did you wish to fight an actual DRAGON, old man?"
"We are knights, Lady Efrideet. Do you not want to be a dragon slayer?
— Efrideet and Saladin after encountering an Ahamkara

Sometime after Saladin recruited Efrideet into the Iron Lords, they encountered an Ahamkara, which were able to grant wishes. Saladin wished to fight a dragon, which transformed the creature into a giant dragon that breathed fire. While Efrideet stayed back and fired on the creature with her rifle, Saladin closed in with his Iron Battle Axe to fight the dragon like a knight of old. He wounded the creature several times while dodging its flames, but his axe soon began to melt from the heat, although he judged it still had enough edge to cut the beast. Efrideet tried to get him to reconsider his strategy and questioned why he had wished to fight a dragon. Grinning under his helmet, he shouted back that they were knights and he wanted to be a dragon slayer. Leaping at the roaring creature once more, Saladin yelled to his companion that they were what they survived.[6]

With their new recruits gathered, Saladin and his comrades began their campaign against the Warlords. They quickly developed a reputation as defenders of humanity and several Warlords joined their cause, including Felwinter, who donated his stronghold on Felwinter Peak to be their headquarters.[7] Saladin was amongst the most honored of the lords and frequently joined his comrades in combating the warlords by defending towns under their control. Alongside Radegast and Perun, he traveled to a village ruled by Warlord Segoth. They confronted him when Segoth arrived at the village to punish the citizens for sheltering the Iron Lords, holding higher ground as Segoth and eight of his followers arrived on Pikes in a narrow pass that only allowed three to approach at a time. Segoth derided them as "Iron Wolves", causing Saladin to shout at him to cease his insults, although Perun admitted she liked the moniker. Unamused, the Warlord ordered them to leave and declared the people there his, but they refused to abandon the civilians to his rule. As Segoth smiled and shrugged at their response, Saladin raised his shield at Perun's command alongside his two comrades as the hostile Lightbearers opened fire. Although the heavy fire pushed them back, their shields protected them, and the Iron Lords returned fire, quickly cutting down the trapped enemy. As Segoth revived, one of his bullets struck Radegast in the head, and Saladin provided covering fire for Perun to help his Ghost revive the Iron Lords leader. Each of the Iron Lords fell several times, but their shield wall never broke, and Segoth eventually retreated, vowing to kill them and all who aided them as the town cheered Saladin and his comrades.[8]

Amongst the Risen who joined the ranks of the Iron Lords was Silimar, an old friend of Saladin. Saladin and the rest of the Iron Lords were confused by Silimar's constant building of a tower that he rebuilt every time it was assaulted by the Fallen and Warlords. After the eleventh time the tower was destroyed, Saladin met with Silimar in its ruins and upon his friend's revival by his Ghost, questioned him about why he kept rebuilding and calling the tower doomed. Silimar rejected that term, deciding fated fit better, but Saladin suggested indefensible also worked. He declared only a fool would continue to rebuild a tower that kept being destroyed. However, Silimar declared that it was like them, being reborn every time they fell, and that one day it would not fall and they would know the time was right. Saladin asked what they would know, and Silimar declared that it would mean it was safe to build a city to the sky.[9]

Six Fronts[edit]

Saladin, Zavala and Shaxx defending the city.
"The Fallen's southern approach has broken. The City holds."
— Saladin at the conclusion of the battle

The efforts of the Iron Lords allowed the creation of The Last City under the protection of the Traveler. As thousands of survivors and Lightbearers flocked to the growing city, it became a target for the Fallen. Alongside his fellow Iron Lords, Saladin traveled to defend the Last City alongside its Guardians. Saladin commanded the city's southern walls from the Fallen assault, which nearly overwhelmed the Guardian's defenses several times. However, the defenders eventually drove the Fallen armies into retreat. As communications were reestablished, Saladin heard Osiris, Saint-14, and Shaxx declare that each of their sectors were secure. As Shaxx announced he would march to reinforce the southern walls, Saladin informed them that he had broken the Fallen's assault and that the City was saved. As the defenders contemplated their victory, Shaxx joyously mocked the Fallen for believing they would simply wipe out the City, and Saladin joined the others in laughing. Osiris reported all fireteams were accounted for, and Saint credited the Titan Elriq for helping him save eight Guardians during dozens of charges against the Fallen. Saladin was impressed by the young Titan and asked how many times he died in the fight, but Saint revealed that he and Elriq had both survived the battle without falling.[10]

Fall of the Iron Lords[edit]

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"A battle was won. Heroes died. And our mistakes stayed here."
— Saladin Forge

Eventually, Saladin and his comrades discovered SIVA, a self-replicating nanotechnology created during the Golden Age. They believed it could be used to aid them in protecting humanity, but it turned against them. Unable to destroy the techno-virus, the Iron Lords sealed it beneath the earth. However, the virus claimed the Iron Lords, and Saladin was one of the only two to survive.[11][12]

Battle of the Twilight Gap[edit]

"This battlefield is not your stage, Shaxx! This is not about glory!"
— Saladin to Shaxx as he disobeyed orders during the Battle of the Twilight Gap

When an alliance of the Fallen Houses threatened the safety of the Last City, Saladin was selected to lead the City's defense during the upcoming battle alongside his students Lord Shaxx and Commander Zavala.[13] The Fallen concentrated their assault on Twilight Gap, throwing wave after wave of soldiers towards humanity's last stronghold. As the battle turned against the Vanguard, Saladin ordered all fireteams to retreat to the Ridgeback District and to halt all advances, believing that the City was lost. However, Shaxx did not acknowledge the fallback order and instead advanced with his fireteams. Saladin angrily demanded that Shaxx fallback with the rest of the fireteams and told him that the battlefield was not his stage to win glory upon, but his student cut off their comms feed.[14] Shaxx and his fireteam were able to hold their position on the Wall at Twilight Gap long enough for Saladin and Zavala to regroup the rest of their forces for a counterattack that drove the Fallen back and saved the Last City.[15] Despite the City being saved, Saladin remained furious with Shaxx for disobeying his orders during the middle of battle. Their relationship became strained, although Saladin continued to remain on good terms with Zavala.[13]

The Iron Banner[edit]

Saladin hosting the Iron Banner

Saladin eventually began to host Iron Banner events in the Last City's Crucible as a memorial to the sacrifices of the Iron Lords and to remind Guardians of their legacy. He was forced to cooperate with Shaxx at the behest of the Consensus to coordinate these events due to his former pupil having become the head of the Crucible in the aftermath of the Twilight Gap. However, Saladin handled most of the logistics on his own and stayed far away from Shaxx. Others in the Tower tried to get Saladin, Shaxx, and Zavala to sit down and talk about the events of Twilight Gap to repair their friendship, but none of those efforts worked due to their stubbornness.[16]

SIVA Crisis[edit]

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Saladin confronting the Devil Splicers

One year after the events of the Taken War, the Fallen and the House of Devils managed to unearth SIVA, and their Splicers tried to harness the technology. Unable to defeat the mutant Devils on his own, Saladin began seeking out Guardians to help him form a new generation of the Iron Lords to end the threat of SIVA once and for all.[11][12]

After guiding the Guardian into the Plaguelands and deep into Site 6 in order to shut down SIVA, remnants of the Iron Lords twisted by the technovirus attack in defense of the SIVA production chamber.[17] After destroying the remnants and the chamber, the Guardian returns to Felwinter Peak, where Saladin gifts them a newly forged sword and names them the first of a new generation of Iron Lords.[18]

Return to the Last City[edit]

"You and Zavala both know better. Is the City so desperate for allies that you've forgotten the Light? Forgotten what I have taught you? Look upon the Traveler. It is the only ally you will ever need."
— Lord Saladin, to the Young Wolf after they began using Stasis

After the Red War, Lord Saladin would return to the new Tower to once again host the Iron Banner tournament, having previously tasked Efrideet to do so during the SIVA Crisis. Saladin recently also displays distaste for Osiris due to his infamous exile of the Last City, and also further explaining that it was Ikora Rey who reformed the Warlock order, not Osiris.[19] After Rasputin was awakened on Mars and declared itself the guardian of humanity and the solar system, Saladin expressed deep concern for the situation. He told the Young Wolf that if it were up to him, the Vanguard would destroy the warmind.[20]

After the arrival of the Black Fleet and the embrace by some Guardians of the Darkness infused powers of Stasis. Confronting the Young Wolf, Saladin criticized them for being among those using Stasis and Zavala for not punishing those who did. He insisted that the Light and the Traveler were the only allies they needed. Let his anger and frustration slip out, Saladin noted that Drifter claimed that nothing could kill a Guardian quicker than another Guardian, a fact he agreed with, and noted with disgust how the Last City had tried to rely on Rasputin before it failed against the Black Fleet and they meekly watched as the Darkness took four planets away from them. Leaning forward, Saladin issued a warning to the Young Wolf to ensure that they did not fall prey to their own hubris while using Stasis, or it would not be the Darkness that came for them.[21]

Clash of the Chosen[edit]

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Following the arrival of the Imperial Cabal, led by Empress Caiatl, in the Sol System, Saladin was asked by Commander Zavala to be the field commander of a taskforce dedicated to keeping the Cabal from reorganizing and starting a new war against humanity. Saladin eagerly agreed, regretting not having participated in the Red War, and was determined to wipe out the Cabal once and for all to prevent them from ever harming humanity again. Joining him on this task force was Vanguard Advisor Osiris, now Lightless since the loss of his Ghost Sagira, a new Hunter known as The Crow for reconnaissance, and Amanda Holliday to fly mission support.[22]

Contacting the Young Wolf at the H.E.L.M., Saladin briefed them on their first mission. He complimented them on their first victory over Caiatl's forces on Nessus and noted that Osiris had informed him that they had interrupted a Cabal ritual known as the Rite of Proving, which Osiris had compared to the Crucible, although Saladin did not see the similarities. He noted that the remnants of the Red Legion sought to earn Caiatl's favor through the Rite and that that would exploit that by challenging every contender for the Empress's War Council and prevent any seats from being filled, preventing the Cabal from reorganizing and starting another full-scale war. Thanks to a report from Crow, Saladin had their next target lined up: Basilius the Golem, who was seeking Golden Age relics on Europa to offer to Caiatl in hopes of augmenting Cabal forces with cybernetic and Exo tech. Saladin ordered the Young Wolf to stop this plot and prevent the Cabal from creating an army of Exo-Legionaries.[22] After Basilius's elimination, Saladin sent a message to the Young Wolf complimenting them on their efforts, but expressed frustration at Zavala's determination not to enter into total war against the Cabal. They would thus continue targeting other commanders vying for a seat on the Council and deal a death of a thousand cuts to the Cabal.[23]

Saladin soon learned that Val Ma'rag was leading a Cabal assault against the Hive in the Cosmodrome in revenge for the Fall of Torobatl to the Hive God of War Xivu Arath. Briefing the Young Wolf, Saladin ordered them to eliminate Ma'rag before he could achieve his objective and earn a place on Caiatl's War Council. Saladin was concerned that a victory by the Imperial Cabal in the Cosmodrome would lead more Cabal there to establish a Firebase, threatening a region which regularly produced new Guardians from Ghosts searching the ruined shipyard.[24] After Ma'rag's elimination, Saladin sent a message to the Young Wolf informing them that Caiatl's push into the Sol System had been halted thanks to their counter-assaults and Crow's intel gathering. He again noted that Zavala would not authorize a larger scale conflict and that there were still more commanders seeking to join Caiatl's council, advising that they keep hitting them until the Cabal could not regain their footing.[25]

Crow soon reported that the Psion Ixel, the Far-Reaching was leading incursions into Vex territory on Nessus seeking to use their prediction engines to gain knowledge of the future and offer it to Caiatl for a spot on the War Council. Consulting with Osiris on the Vex, Saladin came to understand that the Cabal gaining Vex technology could end poorly for humanity. Saladin briefed the Young Wolf on the situation and was concerned that Ixel could give the Cabal the advantage over them or possibly unleash destruction on everyone by messing with Vex technology. He ordered them to hit the Cabal hard to ensure they never attempted to steal from the Vex again.[26] Although Ixel was eliminated, three other Psions escaped with Vex data. Saladin was angered that the Vex had managed to steal data on his watch and was concerned about what Osiris was doing with the information they recovered from the mission. He warned the Young Wolf to stay on guard, as he was sure the Psions would hit them soon with whatever they stole.[27]

Personality and Traits[edit]

Stoic, serious and experienced yet somber and grim are the best words to describe Lord Saladin. From the day he became a Iron Lord, Saladin takes his purpose and duty in protecting the survivors of the Collapse with complete dedication, becoming a pillar of a what a Titan and Guardian should be. Saladin believes in the code the Iron Lords stood for in using their Traveler-given abilities to protect and serve, not to conquer as the Warlords did. However, as a result of his experiences and losses, Saladin has been hardened from them all. Despite being famously serious, Saladin does have moments of humor, mostly with old friends like Efrideet.

Beneath his stoicism lies a deep sadness and guilt over the deaths of his fellow Iron Lords at the hands of SIVA. He was particularly close to the Iron Lord's leader, Radagast, who became his mentor while Jolder became his closest companion among the Iron Lords. Upon their deaths, he hoped to that he would never have to revisit his past but continued to honor their legacy with the Iron Banner tournament and with the threat of the Devil Splicers, he realized that the danger was greater than keeping the full story of the Iron Lords and SIVA a secret. However, with the help of the Guardian, he was able to make peace with what had happened and relieve centuries of burden.

With the Guardian, he at first saw them as a promising student that needed training but of course he makes sure that they stay humble and focused. Saladin's respect and praise for the Guardian would grow throughout the SIVA Crisis, dubbing them the first of a new generation of Iron Lords, the title of Lord Guardian and the name of Young Wolf. The relationship between Saladin and the Young Wolf became strained when his pupil began utilizing Stasis, as Saladin was adamantly opposed to any wielding of the Darkness. He threatened to kill the Young Wolf himself if they ever became corrupted by their use of it.[21]

Much like his own students, Saladin has a prideful, stubborn streak, as he normally doesn't back down from a fight and doesn't apologize easily. While he maintains a friendship with Zavala, Saladin has a shaky relationship with Shaxx at best for both refuse to make amends over the Battle of the Twilight Gap. However, like Shaxx, Saladin respects all the classes of Guardians.


He used to be found in the Traveler's Walk area of the Tower, and sold gear in exchange for Glimmer and Iron Banner Reputation.[28] He re-forged weapons for Motes of Light.[29] The Weekly Bungie's actual weapons and armor available tend to change from each event. His duties was taken over by Lady Efrideet, and the Iron Banner was at the Iron Temple on Felwinter Peak. Saladin himself would return to take charge of the event after the Red War.

Rank Item
0 "Tempering" Buff (1 Mote of Light)
1 "Sigil of the Iron Lords" Emblem (7500 glimmer)
2 "Million Million" Shader (2400 glimmer)
3 Armor (9950 glimmer), "Scar of Radegast" Emblem (7500 glimmer)
4 Special or Heavy Weapon (11500 glimmer), Class Item (4500 glimmer)
5 Primary Weapon (11500 glimmer), "Goldspiral" Shader (7500 glimmer)


Saladin's Induction Speech[edit]

"Nothing born is born strong.

"I know I began weak, the same as you. I don't care if you're an Exo, staring at that number and wondering where you've come from. Or a Human hungry to understand the ancient world that left you for dead. Or an Awoken reborn in the very essence of what your people hide from. Together, we're the pointed end of a long stick of happenstance. Change one ripple in an ancient ocean and we would never have been granted the Light within us, or the good Ghosts that want to help us.

"Humble origins.

"Every world begins as a big pebble lost among trillions of pebbles. Every worthy sun was once cold hydrogen spread thin across the vacuum. Even the universe, this cosmic garden that surrounds us and awes us... this monument to Creation was once the size of an apple seed. And everything that's splendid and great stands at the end of incalculable chance and mayhem.

"Yes, you have talents. Enormous, wondrous powers. But you should put the smirk away. Do you know what a Guardian is? Not yet. Your name is another pebble. You are a cold apple seed.

"But you will grow."[30]

Felwinter Peak (Destiny) [31][edit]

Idle Dialogue[edit]

  • "I suppose you want me to tell you a tale. Newer Guardians always do. Lady Efrideet once threw me into a Fallen Walker. Our combined arc energies made short work of it. My Ghost was chortling as he brought me back to life. [scoffs] I was furious... but I still asked Efrideet if she wanted a seat among the Iron Lords."
  • "You want a story, is that it? My Ghost woke me on the battlefields of Russia much like yours did. I quickly learned to deal death before it came for me. Yours has been the more honorable path."
  • "Be kind to your Ghost, Guardian. It went through endless shadow to find you and it will burn every spark it has to keep you safe."
  • "Taking a respite from the brutality down in the Cosmodrome? The battlefields of the Dark Age were equally vicious. Only by becoming the brightest light on the field was I able to end the violence and broker any sort of peace."
  • "In the Dark Age, I lacked the audacity to dream of peace. This temple was supposed to be the beginning..."
  • "I have tried and failed to broker peace with the Fallen across the ages. If they want war, they'll get it. "
  • "SIVA is one of the many threats I hoped this planet would never see again."
  • "It's the most difficult challenges that a Guardian lives for and SIVA is such a challenge."
  • "Hell's loose in Old Russia. I pray the City isn't next."
  • "This is far from the first battle the Cosmodrome has seen, but it will stand as the most important."
  • "You look uncertain. I'll say to you what Lady Perun said to me on the eve of my first battle: "do not let your fears define you.""
  • "The Cosmodrome has long been a place of sacred Light. That Light is in danger now."
  • "The Devil Splicers march across Old Russia. How will your Light push them back if you're standing here, Warlock?"
  • "Your Light proves your strength, Titan."
  • "Careful, Hunter, you're within striking distance. If I were a Devil Splicer, I'd have you."
  • "How will your swiftness stop the Devil Splicers if you're just standing here, Hunter?"
  • "So, the Splicers set aside Servitor-worship to become machine-gods themselves. SIVA is a terrifying enabler."
  • "Shiro's report suggests the Splicers' control of SIVA was improving. Worrisome..."
  • "Perhaps you'll succeed where the Iron Lords failed. You must."
  • "The Devil Splicers' hunt for SIVA will continue. We must be vigilant!"
  • "Face the Fallen with caution: they're not just scavengers, not anymore."
  • "Splicers aren't mere scavengers. They long to evolve beyond Fallen, beyond Humans — perhaps even beyond gods."
  • "Fallen machines joined with SIVA. I don't envy the new generation for what they must face."
  • "The Splicer Prime is beaten, but his followers remain a threat. We must be ready."
  • "You've stopped a Fallen machine-god, but the Devil Splicers are still out there."
  • "If the Splicers are seeking godhood, I doubt this will end with SIVA."
  • "The Devils will seek out other SIVA caches. We must be there to intercept them when they do."
  • "Splicers aren't unique to the Devils. We can only hope the other Houses do not find inspiration in what's transpired here."
  • "This won't be the end. The Devil Splicers add Fallen to their ranks every moment."
  • "With our victory in the vault, our Light has drawn a hard border on the spread of SIVA."
  • "Even with SIVA at their command, the Fallen stood no chance against the Young Wolf."
  • "My vigil has ended. For the first time in centuries, tomorrow is unwritten."
  • "Is the Vanguard looking for fireteams? My schedule is clear tomorrow."
  • "What now? The Cabal on Mars? The Vex across time? I'll crush them all."
  • "I was impressed with your handling of the Taken, seizing the initiative on the Dreadnaught." [grunts] I wish more Guardians showed such forethought."
  • "So many seek to destroy us: the Devil Splicers, the Taken. Let them come. They face Saladin Forge renewed."
  • "Every trial I've orchestrated under the Iron Banner has been in preparation for here and now."
  • "I'd hope the Iron Banner would prepare Guardians for this day but SIVA manifesting like this, under the Fallen... that was unforeseen, as many things are."
  • "The Iron Lords left an oath unfulfilled. The Guardians will see it through."
  • "You're the most resilient Guardian I know. Whatever drives you hold onto it."
  • "Our Light is all that will sustain us against SIVA."
  • "To give your life for others is to answer the highest calling. The Iron Lords answered with pride."
  • "All Guardians owe an unpayable debt to the Iron Lords. Perhaps one day they will know the full extent."
  • "The Guardians will learn from this, if they survive."
  • "Why are you idling, Guardian? I envy everything you have to accomplish. For the first time since the Dark Age, I have no duty left to fulfill."
  • "The Iron Lords rose from this temple. It's yours to defend now, Guardian. You wield its powers of Light."
  • "Admiring the architecture? Lord Silimar and I built this temple during the Dark Age. Twelve times. War kept unmaking it."
  • "During the Dark Age, Lord Silimar and I built this temple in the midst of endless war."
  • "The Iron Temple isn't just a memorial, Guardian. It was our base of operation in Old Russia, as well as our armory."
  • "The most powerful force in the universe is purpose: to exist for a reason greater than oneself. That is what it means to stand before the Iron Temple."
  • "Lady Skorri wrote the Iron Song behind these walls. Sadly, I can't remember how it goes."
  • "Skorri, I won't sing in your stead, but at least I can hear the Iron Song again."
  • "Skorri, SIVA has come again. My axe will sing in your stead."
  • "The songs that Skorri would've written for you, they would've set the sky ablaze."
  • "At times like this I can't help but think of Lady Jolder. She gave her smile so freely. Sometimes it feels like Guardians today have smiles glued to their faces."
  • "Standing there you remind me of a young Lady Jolder staring defiantly into the face of death... except she'd be dancing."
  • "Radegast, after all these years, our mission is finally over and I still wonder what you would say."
  • "I wish Radegast could've seen you with his own eyes."
  • "Your fellow Guardians will look to you now. Among the Iron Lords, we looked to Radegast for inspiration. There was a time of Warlords and Light battled Light across the world — different struggle surely, but never discount the effect you have on those around you."
  • "So many young Guardians don't know why the Iron Lords formed. We fought corrupt Lightbearers who ruled by the Traveler's gift. We fought the Fallen as they tried to take what little territory humanity had left. We fought the whole world and eventually we turned that endless war into the Last City."
  • "Rest easy, Radegast. SIVA's burden is ours to bear now."
  • "No time to waste. Keep fighting, Guardian, for those who no longer can."
  • "Tyra can ask for whatever she wants: one does not host academic functions inside the Iron Temple."
  • "As you speak with Tyra, bear in mind: she views the Iron Lords as facts and figures, an idea to be categorized. But we were flesh. From the start, we tried to be the ideal for others like us to follow. It's why you're here today."
  • "I will leave it to Shiro to report to the Vanguard the details of what happened here. The truth deserves someone more... objective."
  • "Feed the dragon that is your Light and it will arm you with a fire no weapon can match."
  • "Iron Lord and Guardian. You are the first and only to hold both titles."

Approach Dialogue[edit]

  • "The Lord Guardian. Always an honor."
  • "I never thought I would live to see a new Iron Lord. Wear the mantle well."
  • "And so the Young Wolf approaches."
  • "And what can I do for the Young Wolf today?"
  • "Lord Guardian. What news from the front?"
  • "Good. We have much to discuss."
  • "I believe you're the only one equipped to finish what the Iron Lords began."
  • "It is time to feed your Light."
  • "Will your Light prove its swiftness, Hunter?"
  • "I know you're fast, Hunter. Prove you're tough."
  • "You're powerful, Titan, but can you be fast?"
  • "You're sharp, Warlock, but how are you in a fight?"
  • "Warlock, your Light is a weapon. Let me see its glory."
  • "Light isn't a compliment to your weapon. It is your weapon."
  • "Your Light must never relent. The Devil Splicers will return."
  • "Felwinter Peak agrees with you, Guardian."
  • "I knew SIVA would not deter one such as you. Not in the slightest."
  • "You've lifted a great burden off my shoulders, Lord Guardian."
  • "Thanks to you, I face the future with new eyes."
  • "The old ways are better, wouldn't you agree?"
  • "I wish you could've met your fellow Iron Lords. You would've taught each other much."

Interact Dialogue[edit]

  • "Lord Guardian. The honor is mine."
  • "Talk to me."
  • "Tell me what you've seen."
  • "Everything under control out there?"
  • "Any news from the field?"
  • "The Iron Temple needs you."
  • "SIVA will test all that you are... as will I."
  • "SIVA is out there. Are you ready?"
  • "Show me your iron will."
  • "Time to feed your Light."
  • "It's time to fight!"
  • "I'm eager to see Light in action."
  • "Show me your Light."
  • "Everywhere you go, Devils fall."
  • "Your Light has brought us peace... for now."
  • "The raid on that vault — I knew that would be our Young Wolf."
  • "I suppose where you walk even SIVA machine-gods fall."
  • "How did the Devils react when you killed their god?"
  • "You succeeded where the Iron Lords fell. No small accomplishment."
  • "The immortal who finally tamed SIVA. Welcome."
  • "My comrades are finally at peace thanks to you."
  • "Perhaps every Guardian should just assign bounties to you!"
  • "A time will come when I'll have nothing to teach you."
  • "Lord Guardian. The first and only."

Purchase Dialogue[edit]

  • "As Guardians, our battle never ends. May this aid you."
  • "This will grow your Light."
  • "You wield the Light with conviction."
  • "This shows you have power. Use it well."
  • "You are worthy of this."
  • "May this help you in your quest."
  • "A gift from the old traditions."
  • "With this, I acknowledge your power, Guardian."

Leave Dialogue[edit]

  • "Your Light is a dragon. Feed it."
  • "You can't pave the way to the future if you don't respect the bones of the past."
  • "Take your Light to the stars, Guardian."
  • "Come back stronger."
  • "I enjoy our time together, Guardian. Let's hope you come back in one piece."
  • "Your Light will guide you home. Trust in it."
  • "You're fast, Hunter, but your Light's faster. Trust it."
  • "It's time to drawl, Hunter."
  • "The Light is your power, Titan."
  • "The City needs your cunning, Warlock, and your Light."

Iron Banner (Destiny)[edit]

  • "Are you up to the challenge?"
  • "Have you been tested?"
  • "The Iron Banner offers much suffering, but equal reward."
  • "Odds are you are not ready for the Iron Banner."
  • "Let the Iron Banner shape you."
  • "Have you proved yourself... worthy?"
  • "Only the strongest need prove themselves to the Iron Banner"
  • "Your Light will be tested, Guardian... and you will be stronger for it."
  • "Until we meet again, Guardian"
  • "The weak-willed need not apply."
  • "You have never been tested like this."
  • "No games. No sympathy. Just survival."
  • "We recognize strength, Guardian."
  • "Simply finishing isn't enough if you want to reap the best rewards, Guardian. Prove yourself."

The Tower (Destiny 2)[32][edit]

Distant Dialogue[edit]

  • "Before the Vanguard, the Iron Lords were the authority."
  • "The old way is best. The Iron Banner is the old way."
  • "The Iron Banner is war. Are you prepared to fight it?"
  • "The old ways are better."
  • "No limits in the Iron Banner."
  • "The Iron Banner does not aim to be gracious."
  • "This won't be easy, nothing worth doing is easy."
  • "The Iron Lords are watching."
  • "Bring your fiercest Light. You'll need it."
  • "You know battle. Do you know your Light?"
  • "Your Light is what makes you a Guardian. Come, test it."
  • "Light doesn't grow unless you feed it worthy opponents."

Near Dialogue[edit]

  • "To give your life so that others may live is to answer the highest calling. The Iron Lords answered with pride."
  • "Gheleon... how you would have relished this Red War."
  • "Felwinter would've embraced this battle with the Red Legion."
  • "A Shard of the Traveler in the European Dead Zone... sounds straight out of a child's fairy tale."
  • " [grunts] In our prime, the Iron Lords would have avenged the attack on the Tower."
  • "SIVA wasn't the only legend the Iron Lords kept track of. The network of Warmind bunkers on this world is vast and the Golden Age relics they hold are numerous. With the Traveler returned, perhaps it's time to quest for them once more."
  • "New Guardians in the Tower. They will learn."
  • "Your generation doesn't respect Light as you should. One day you may have to."
  • "Being a Guardian means you wield the Light, that you're a protector of the last of humanity, that you have a duty to this Tower, to this, to keep it safe."
  • "The time has come, Guardians. The Iron Banner has returned."
  • "Zavala needs you, but I need you, too."
  • "Your Vanguard missions serve the good of the City, but your battles in the Iron Banner make you a better Guardian."
  • "Your Vanguard record is impressive. The Iron Banner forges Guardians to do good work."
  • "The Iron Banner is a celebration of survival, of the Collapse, of the Dark Age. It is a remembrance of the Iron Lords who fought to protect humanity."
  • "This tournament celebrates the old ways. Come test your mettle."
  • "To set limits on your Light is to stifle your potential. The Crucible is not enough: embrace the Iron Banner."
  • "Your performance in the Crucible is impressive, but it would be better with greater Light. No don't tell me, the response is always, "I've hit the ceiling, this is as far as I can go." Do you think we said that at Six Fronts?"
  • "A Guardian is a greater challenge than any external enemy."
  • "You're facing your allies at their best. Come prepared."
  • "You're one of the best. The iron Banner breaks the best."
  • "The Iron Banner awaits. Find opponents. Test your might."
  • "Annihilate your opponents. Reap their glory."
  • "Light is something you feed over time that you grow. There is no windfall, there is no respite. If you arrive hoping you have what it takes... you won't."
  • "Respect your Light. It could mean the difference between life and death."
  • "Weapons and armor can only do so much. Trust your Light. Feed it."
  • "Warlock, your Light is a weapon. Let me see its glory."
  • "The Iron Banner is an arms race. Can you win it?"
  • "Hone your Light, Guardian. No wasted effort. Ever."
  • "Grow stronger, you must. The City needs you."
  • "You're Sharp, Warlock, but how are you in a fight?"
  • "Careful, Hunter. You're within striking distance."
  • "Instead of idling here testing my resolve, you could be fighting for the armor of the Iron Banner."

Approach Dialogue[edit]

  • "Will your Light prove its swiftness, Hunter?"
  • "I know you're ready for the Iron Banner, Guardian."
  • "Focus, Guardian. It's time to fight!"
  • "Are you prepared for the Iron Banner?"

Interact Dialogue[edit]

  • "Tower missions are important, but so are the old traditions."
  • "Ready for a battle with no limits?"
  • "It's time you face the fury of Light unbridled."
  • "To test your Light is to test everything."
  • "Show me your Light, Warlock."
  • "Don't try to impress me in the Crucible. Just get better."
  • "Fight, Guardian. No one will fight for you."
  • "It's time to fight."
  • "The Iron Banner has come whether you seek it or not."
  • "The Iron Banner wants to put your cunning to use, Warlock."

Purchase Dialogue[edit]

  • "May this feed the dragon that is your Light."
  • "With this, I acknowledge your power, Guardian."
  • "May you grow from this."
  • "As Guardians, our battle never ends. May this aid you."
  • "A gift from the old traditions."
  • "May this help you in your quest."
  • "This means you have power. Use it well."

Leave Dialogue[edit]

  • "You can't pave the way to the future if you don't respect the bones of the past."
  • "Keep growing your Light."
  • "Take your Light to the stars, Guardian."
  • "Come back stronger."
  • "Then go. Be the Guardian we need you to be."
  • "Your Light will guide you home. Trust in it."
  • "Into the fire, Guardian!"

Iron Banner (Destiny 2)[edit]

  • "Iron Banner Control."
  • "In the Dark Age, we called this 'fun'." - when picking up Power Ammo
  • "This isn't over until Shaxx sings. And he is very shy."
  • "Do you like it better when Lord Shaxx oversees these matches? So do I. A busy Shaxx, is a quiet Shaxx."
  • "Die! Die! Di-(cough) Sorry. I've been watching too many Iron Banner matches. What time is it? Shaxx? Shaxx, are you there? Can you get me a water? Stop yelling, it's just a question. I'm not old!"[33]
  • "Your weapon defines you!" - when picking up Power Ammo
  • "Rasputin is not to be trusted. That Warmind will do anything to get what it needs. Felwinter hoped Rasputin would help us. That hope costs me my brothers and sisters in arms: the Iron Lords. I will not abide losing you, Guardian. If it were up to me, we'd be at all-out war with Rasputin. But my time to lead is over. Our future is in your hands. Show me how you've grown. The Iron Banner will prepare you for what's coming."[34]


  • Saladin was historically a Kurdish sultan of the 12th century.
  • A replica of Saladin's battle axe was created by the blacksmith company Sword and the Stone.[35]
  • Before Destiny 2, announcements in the Iron Banner were done by Lord Shaxx. Now, Saladin takes that responsibility.
  • Should a player obtain a "We Ran Out of Medals" medal in an Iron Banner match in Destiny 2, Saladin will blurt out, "Die! Die! Die!", the same line said by Reaper in Overwatch when using his Ultimate as the two characters are played by the same actor, Keith Ferguson.[36]
  • Saladin’s Quotes from Felwinter Peak occur in Destiny, while his Quotes from The Tower occur in Destiny 2.


List of appearances[edit]


  1. ^ Bungie (2016/9/20), Destiny: Rise of Iron, PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, King of the Mountain
  2. ^ Bungie (2016/9/20), Destiny: Rise of Iron, Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: Lord Radegast
  3. ^ Bungie (2018/9/4), Destiny 2: Forsaken, Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, Cloak of Remembrance
  4. ^ Bungie (2018/9/4), Destiny 2: Forsaken, Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, Mark of Remembrance
  5. ^ Bungie (2018/9/4), Destiny 2: Forsaken, Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, Bond of Remembrance
  6. ^ Bungie (2018/9/4), Destiny 2: Forsaken, Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, Transfiguration
  7. ^ Bungie (2016/9/20), Destiny: Rise of Iron Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: Lord Felwinter
  8. ^ Bungie (2016/9/20), Destiny: Rise of Iron Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: Lady Perun
  9. ^ Bungie (2016/9/20), Destiny: Rise of Iron Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: Lord Silimar
  10. ^ Bungie (2019/12/10), Destiny 2: Season of Dawn, Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, Lore: War Stories
  11. ^ a b Destiny: Rise of Iron Trailer
  12. ^ a b Rise of Iron
  13. ^ a b Bungie (2014/9/9), Destiny: Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: Iron Banner Rep
  14. ^ Bungie (2018/12/4), Destiny 2: Black Armory, Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, The Mountaintop
  15. ^ Bungie (2017/8/9), Destiny 2: Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, Shard of the Traveler (Sunbreaker)
  16. ^ Bungie (2015/5/19), Destiny: House of Wolves: Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: Iron Banner
  17. ^ Bungie (2016-9-20), Destiny: Rise of Iron PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, The Iron Tomb
  18. ^ Bungie (2016-9-20), Destiny: Rise of Iron PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, The Iron Tomb
  19. ^ Bungie (2017/12/5), Destiny 2: Curse of Osiris, Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard
  20. ^ Bungie (2018/5/8), Destiny 2: Warmind, Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard
  21. ^ a b Bungie (2020/11/10), Destiny 2: Beyond Light - Power of Faith
  22. ^ a b Bungie (2021/2/9), Destiny 2: Season of the Chosen - Quest: Challenger's Proving - Briefing
  23. ^ Bungie (2021/2/9), Destiny 2: Season of the Chosen - Quest: Challenger's Proving - Debriefing
  24. ^ Bungie (2021/2/9), Destiny 2: Season of the Chosen - Quest: Challenger's Proving II - Challenger's Proving II 2
  25. ^ Bungie (2021/2/9), Destiny 2: Season of the Chosen - Quest: Challenger's Proving II - Challenger's Proving II
  26. ^ Bungie (2021/2/9), Destiny 2: Season of the Chosen - Quest: Challenger's Proving III - Battleground: Oracle
  27. ^ Bungie (2021/2/9), Destiny 2: Season of the Chosen - Quest: Challenger's Proving III - Debriefing 6
  28. ^ Bungie (2014-7-17), Destiny: Beta PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard.
  29. ^ Update- 10/24/2014
  30. ^ Bungie (2014-9-9), Destiny, PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: Abilities
  31. ^ YouTube - Idle Dialogue (Felwinter Peak) — Lord Saladin Playlist
  32. ^ YouTube – Idle Dialogue (Tower Courtyard) — Lord Saladin Playlist
  33. ^ YouTube - Destiny 2 Overwatch Easter Egg: Saladin "Die Die Die" We Ran Out of Medals
  34. ^ YouTube - Destiny 2 Warmind: Lord Saladin's Commentary on Rasputin
  35. ^ Gamespot - Game of Thrones Heavily Influenced Destiny's New Expansion
  36. ^ IMDB - Keith Ferguson