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This is what has built the entire Hive civilization<ref name="Weakness Verse"/> and its very hierarchy.<ref>'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire/Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XX:_Hive|XX: Hive]]''</ref> Each lesser Hive must prove itself to become greater,<ref name="Carved in Ruin"/><ref>'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire/Enemies/The_Taken#The_Taken:_Acolyte|The Taken: Acolyte]]''</ref> or risk annihilation.<ref>'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire/Enemies/The_Taken#The_Taken:_Knight|The Taken: Knight]]''</ref><ref name="SCREAM">'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire/Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XXIV:_THE_SCREAM|XXIV: THE SCREAM]]''</ref> This holds true for every Hive, from the tiny [[Thrall]] to the [[Ascendant Hive]] god-kings, including [[Oryx]] and his sisters. Even the Worm Gods are not exempt, as evidenced by Oryx slaying [[Akka]] to gain an audience with the [[Darkness]] itself.<ref name="King of Shapes"/> As a byproduct of the pact made with the Worm Gods, as a Hive grows stronger from the killing of lesser life-forms (referred to as "cellular automata") and those which follow the dictates of the Light and the Darkness, so does its internal worm's lust for killing, meaning that unless it is fed enough the worm will eventually consume its host.<ref name="SCREAM"/>
This is what has built the entire Hive civilization<ref name="Weakness Verse"/> and its very hierarchy.<ref>'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire/Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XX:_Hive|XX: Hive]]''</ref> Each lesser Hive must prove itself to become greater,<ref name="Carved in Ruin"/><ref>'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire/Enemies/The_Taken#The_Taken:_Acolyte|The Taken: Acolyte]]''</ref> or risk annihilation.<ref>'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire/Enemies/The_Taken#The_Taken:_Knight|The Taken: Knight]]''</ref><ref name="SCREAM">'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire/Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XXIV:_THE_SCREAM|XXIV: THE SCREAM]]''</ref> This holds true for every Hive, from the tiny [[Thrall]] to the [[Ascendant Hive]] god-kings, including [[Oryx]] and his sisters. Even the Worm Gods are not exempt, as evidenced by Oryx slaying [[Akka]] to gain an audience with the [[Darkness]] itself.<ref name="King of Shapes"/> As a byproduct of the pact made with the Worm Gods, as a Hive grows stronger from the killing of lesser life-forms (referred to as "cellular automata") and those which follow the dictates of the Light and the Darkness, so does its internal worm's lust for killing, meaning that unless it is fed enough the worm will eventually consume its host.<ref name="SCREAM"/>


The [[Leviathan]] knew of the Sword Logic and claimed that it led to ruin and damnation for all who followed its path;<ref>'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire/Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#VIII:_Leviathan|VIII: Leviathan]]''</ref> in contrast the Darkness (and Toland<ref name="Darkness 3"/>) claimed that it was a beautiful thing,<ref name="Majestic">'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire/Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XXXII:_Majestic._Majestic.|XXXII: Majestic. Majestic]]''</ref> majestic and noble, and that all life should abide by this self-proving law for this was the natural way of the universe.<ref name="Majestic"/> However there are implications that it destroys the soul and integrity of the practitioner,<ref name="Dreams">''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire/Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XXXIII:_When_do_monsters_have_dreams|XXXIII: When do monsters have dreams]]''</ref> rendering them into an entirely different creature that would horrify themselves if they could view it objectively.<ref name="Failed Timeline">''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire/Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XLIII:_End_of_Failed_Timeline|XLIII: End of Failed Timeline]]''</ref>
The [[Leviathan]] knew of the Sword Logic and claimed that it led to ruin and damnation for all who followed its path;<ref>'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire/Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#VIII:_Leviathan|VIII: Leviathan]]''</ref> in contrast the Darkness (and Toland<ref name="Darkness 3"/>) claimed that it was a beautiful thing,<ref name="Majestic">'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire/Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XXXII:_Majestic._Majestic.|XXXII: Majestic. Majestic]]''</ref> majestic and noble, and that all life should abide by this self-proving law for this was the natural way of the universe.<ref name="Majestic"/> However there are implications that it destroys the soul and integrity of the practitioner,<ref name="Dreams">''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire/Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XXXIII:_When_do_monsters_have_dreams|XXXIII: When do monsters have dreams]]''</ref> rendering them into an entirely different creature that would horrify themselves if they could view it objectively.<ref name="Failed Timeline">''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire/Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XLIII:_End_of_Failed_Timeline|XLIII: End of Failed Timeline]]''</ref> Indeed, even [[Savathûn]], who convince Aurash to listen to her, expresses doubt as to the validity of their crusade.<ref>'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire/Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XLIV:_strict_proof_eternal|XLIV: strict proof eternal]]''</ref>


The Sword Logic can, in rare cases, resurrect a Hive god which has been killed in the [[Ascendant Realm|Ascendant plane]], as long as the one which killed them kills according to their geas, that is their inherent nature which binds them to the worm.<ref>''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire/Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XXXV:_This_Love_Is_War|XXXV: This Love Is War]]''</ref><ref name="Carved in Ruin"/>
The Sword Logic can, in rare cases, resurrect a Hive god which has been killed in the [[Ascendant Realm|Ascendant plane]], as long as the one which killed them kills according to their geas, that is their inherent nature which binds them to the worm.<ref>'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire/Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XXXV:_This_Love_Is_War|XXXV: This Love Is War]]''</ref><ref name="Carved in Ruin"/>


==Relations to other races==
==Relations to other races==
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The [[Vex]] first learned of the Sword Logic when [[Crota]] accidentally cut open a portal into one of their sealed dimensions.<ref name="partition">'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire/Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XXXVIII:_The_partition_of_death|XXXVIII: The partition of death]]''</ref> At first they were confused, their models and projections clashing horribly with the physics<ref name="Ascendant Sword"/> of Oryx's throneworld, until they manifested [[Quria, Blade Transform]] who quickly discovered the source of Hive powers.<ref name="open eye">'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire/Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XXXIX:_open_your_eye_:_go_into_it|XXXIX: open your eye : go into it]]''</ref> Realizing the paracausal nature of the Hive could be the key to Vex survival<ref name="Emperor">'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire/Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XL:_An_Emperor_For_All_Outcomes|XL: An Emperor For All Outcomes]]''</ref> Quria organized a series of test invasion and began learning the Sword Logic from Crota and [[Ir Halak, Deathsinger|his]] [[Ir Anûk, Deathsinger|sisters]], the [[Deathsinger]] twins,<ref name="open eye"/> while keeping the greater Vex collective updated and aware of the process.<ref name="Failed Timeline"/>
The [[Vex]] first learned of the Sword Logic when [[Crota]] accidentally cut open a portal into one of their sealed dimensions.<ref name="partition">'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire/Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XXXVIII:_The_partition_of_death|XXXVIII: The partition of death]]''</ref> At first they were confused, their models and projections clashing horribly with the physics<ref name="Ascendant Sword"/> of Oryx's throneworld, until they manifested [[Quria, Blade Transform]] who quickly discovered the source of Hive powers.<ref name="open eye">'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire/Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XXXIX:_open_your_eye_:_go_into_it|XXXIX: open your eye : go into it]]''</ref> Realizing the paracausal nature of the Hive could be the key to Vex survival<ref name="Emperor">'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire/Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XL:_An_Emperor_For_All_Outcomes|XL: An Emperor For All Outcomes]]''</ref> Quria organized a series of test invasion and began learning the Sword Logic from Crota and [[Ir Halak, Deathsinger|his]] [[Ir Anûk, Deathsinger|sisters]], the [[Deathsinger]] twins,<ref name="open eye"/> while keeping the greater Vex collective updated and aware of the process.<ref name="Failed Timeline"/>


Oryx eventually returned home and defeated the Vex, closing off Crota's portal after throwing his son through it,<ref name="Emperor"/> but not before acknowledging the Vex as a worthy foe.<ref name="Emperor"/> The Vex may have been exposed to the Sword Logic earlier than Crota's mishap for [[Savathûn]] had known of them and had been the one behind Crota's "accident".<ref name="open eye"/>
Oryx eventually returned home and defeated the Vex, closing off Crota's portal after throwing his son through it,<ref name="Emperor"/> but not before acknowledging the Vex as a worthy foe.<ref name="Emperor"/> The Vex may have been exposed to the Sword Logic earlier than Crota's mishap for Savathûn had known of them and had been the one behind Crota's "accident".<ref name="open eye"/>


===Cabal===
===Cabal===

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File:Grimoire Ascendant Sword.jpg
The Hive Cleaver, signature weapon and illustration of the Sword-Logic

"The sword binds wielder to victim. It binds life to death."
Toland, the Shattered[1][2]

The Sword Logic is the guiding religious principle of the Hive. Most of our information comes from the Hive religious text known as the Books of Sorrow[3] and scattered pieces of arcana from Toland's journal.[1]

Overview

As the antithesis to Light, the Sword Logic is best described as the totality and pinnacle of existence[1] and as a "queen of armies".[4] It dictates both the destruction of everything which cannot protect itself against and the establishment of a systematic, self-proving civilizational structure which can withstand annihilation,[5][6] often refered to as the "Last True Shape" of the universe.[4][7] In short, it can be described as a survival-of-the-fittest ideology taken to an incredible extreme. It is not enough to merely defeat enemies, but also to consume their power.[1] All power must be taken by force, not received as a gift.[8] This is why it is a mistake to categorize it as a morality system; the Sword Logic is amoral and self-serving,[6] a meritorious system which dictates the rise and fall of its user by the right of force.[9]

This is what has built the entire Hive civilization[5] and its very hierarchy.[10] Each lesser Hive must prove itself to become greater,[9][11] or risk annihilation.[12][13] This holds true for every Hive, from the tiny Thrall to the Ascendant Hive god-kings, including Oryx and his sisters. Even the Worm Gods are not exempt, as evidenced by Oryx slaying Akka to gain an audience with the Darkness itself.[8] As a byproduct of the pact made with the Worm Gods, as a Hive grows stronger from the killing of lesser life-forms (referred to as "cellular automata") and those which follow the dictates of the Light and the Darkness, so does its internal worm's lust for killing, meaning that unless it is fed enough the worm will eventually consume its host.[13]

The Leviathan knew of the Sword Logic and claimed that it led to ruin and damnation for all who followed its path;[14] in contrast the Darkness (and Toland[4]) claimed that it was a beautiful thing,[15] majestic and noble, and that all life should abide by this self-proving law for this was the natural way of the universe.[15] However there are implications that it destroys the soul and integrity of the practitioner,[16] rendering them into an entirely different creature that would horrify themselves if they could view it objectively.[17] Indeed, even Savathûn, who convince Aurash to listen to her, expresses doubt as to the validity of their crusade.[18]

The Sword Logic can, in rare cases, resurrect a Hive god which has been killed in the Ascendant plane, as long as the one which killed them kills according to their geas, that is their inherent nature which binds them to the worm.[19][9]

Relations to other races

Vex

The Vex first learned of the Sword Logic when Crota accidentally cut open a portal into one of their sealed dimensions.[20] At first they were confused, their models and projections clashing horribly with the physics[1] of Oryx's throneworld, until they manifested Quria, Blade Transform who quickly discovered the source of Hive powers.[21] Realizing the paracausal nature of the Hive could be the key to Vex survival[22] Quria organized a series of test invasion and began learning the Sword Logic from Crota and his sisters, the Deathsinger twins,[21] while keeping the greater Vex collective updated and aware of the process.[17]

Oryx eventually returned home and defeated the Vex, closing off Crota's portal after throwing his son through it,[22] but not before acknowledging the Vex as a worthy foe.[22] The Vex may have been exposed to the Sword Logic earlier than Crota's mishap for Savathûn had known of them and had been the one behind Crota's "accident".[21]

Cabal

The Cabal have little to no experience with the Sword Logic, having never engaged with the Hive in protracted combat except once on the Moon[23] and that the Hive have weapons or tactics which effectively neutralize Guardian resurrection.[24] Once the Skyburners Legion set foot upon the Dreadnaught they became beholden to the Sword Logic[1] but failed to understand how to work it. Nonetheless with the defeat of Oryx, the Cabal contingent aboard the dreadnaught have continued to hold out despite overwhelming losses.[25]

Fallen

The Fallen have not been observed to adapt the Sword Logic to their tactics until the SIVA Crisis[26], when the Devil Splicers began experimenting with SIVA and transcended flesh[27][28][29] entirely. Though not wholly like the Hive and the Worm Gods, the Fallen's behavior is similar enough to the precepts of the Final Shape that they have comprehended a form of the Sword Logic.[4]

The Guardians

In order to fully defeat the Hive god-kings on their own ground the Guardians tapped into the power of the Sword Logic[1][30] and utilized it to topple divinity. However, unlike other species who encountered the Sword Logic, the Guardians did not carry through and claim their enemy's power. This infuriated Toland as he saw the raid team which killed Oryx and his Court leave without taking anything.[30] But this showed that the Sword Logic is a flawed philosophy, that it can be utilized partially without ill-effect, and thus Toland's analogy of three queens uniting together in a "gentle place ringed [with] spears" is indeed the correct one, and not the queen of armies.[4]

The Taken

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List of appearances

References

  1. ^ a b c d e f g Bungie (2014/12/9), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: Ascendant Sword
  2. ^ Bungie (2015/9/15), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Item Description: Dreadfang
  3. ^ Bungie (2015/9/15), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard
  4. ^ a b c d e Bungie (2014/9/9), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: Ghost Fragment: Darkness 3
  5. ^ a b Bungie (2015/9/15), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: XVII: The Weakness Verse
  6. ^ a b reddit, The Sword Logic and its implications - General Battuta, Books of Sorrow Grimoire writer
  7. ^ Bungie (2015/9/15), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: XXX: a golden amputation
  8. ^ a b Bungie (2015/9/15), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: XXVIII: King of Shapes
  9. ^ a b c Bungie (2015/9/15), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: XXIX: Carved in Ruin
  10. ^ Bungie (2015/9/15), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: XX: Hive
  11. ^ Bungie (2015/9/15), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: The Taken: Acolyte
  12. ^ Bungie (2015/9/15), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: The Taken: Knight
  13. ^ a b Bungie (2015/9/15), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: XXIV: THE SCREAM
  14. ^ Bungie (2015/9/15), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: VIII: Leviathan
  15. ^ a b Bungie (2015/9/15), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: XXXII: Majestic. Majestic
  16. '^ Bungie (2015/9/15), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: XXXIII: When do monsters have dreams
  17. ^ a b Bungie (2015/9/15)', Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: XLIII: End of Failed Timeline
  18. ^ Bungie (2015/9/15), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: XLIV: strict proof eternal
  19. ^ Bungie (2015/9/15), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: XXXV: This Love Is War
  20. ^ Bungie (2015/9/15), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: XXXVIII: The partition of death
  21. ^ a b c Bungie (2015/9/15), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: XXXIX: open your eye : go into it
  22. ^ a b c Bungie (2015/9/15), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: XL: An Emperor For All Outcomes
  23. ^ Bungie (2014/9/9), Destiny: Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, First Light
  24. ^ Bungie (2015/9/15), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: Ghost Fragment: Cabal 4
  25. ^ Bungie (2015/9/15), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: Outbound Signal
  26. ^ Bungie (2016/9/20), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: Dormant SIVA: Fallen 3.4
  27. ^ Bungie (2016/9/20), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: Dormant SIVA: Fallen 3.0
  28. ^ Bungie (2016/9/20), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: Dormant SIVA: Fallen 3.5
  29. ^ Bungie (2016/9/20), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: Dormant SIVA: Fallen 3.6
  30. ^ a b Bungie (2015/9/15), Destiny: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Grimoire: King's Fall