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==New Project Idea== | |||
I'm thinking of condensing and rearranging the information here as part of a side project, to make a more streamlined and story-centric presentation. Not on here, I don't think, maybe a blog or something, in the style of various Lore videos I've seen on youtube. I think I would have three major categories: History, Guardians & Allies, and Enemies. I would also include some minor speculation about some of the gray areas of the story, but I would be careful to label it as such. | |||
===History=== | |||
*Ares One and the Golden Age | |||
*The Collapse and the Dark Age | |||
*The City Age | |||
:*Six Fronts | |||
:*The Faction Wars | |||
:*Twilight Gap | |||
:*The Great Disaster | |||
*The Reef Wars | |||
===Guardians & Allies=== | |||
*Guardians Introduction | |||
:*Titans, Hunters and Warlocks, and their subclasses | |||
*The Traveler | |||
*Kabr | |||
*Jaren Ward | |||
*Dredgen Yor | |||
*Eris | |||
*Osiris | |||
*The Queen & The Reef | |||
*Rasputin | |||
*The Nine | |||
===Enemies=== | |||
*Darkness | |||
*Fallen | |||
:* Society, Houses, History | |||
*Hive | |||
:*Caste System, Religion | |||
*Vex | |||
:*History, Goals and Projects | |||
*Cabal | |||
:*History, Goals | |||
*Oryx and the Taken | |||
===Mysteries=== | |||
*The Ahamkara | |||
*The Black Garden | |||
*Dreams of Alpha Lupi | |||
==Speculation== | ==Speculation== | ||
===The Taken King=== | |||
Bungie just trademarked this name but we know nothing about it except an obvious Hive-looking logo. I think this might be Comet:Plague of Darkness. Question is, who the "king" is supposed to be. I have a few ideas; it might be [[Oryx]] coming to avenge his defeated son [[Crota]], which I think would be the most likely scenario. One other idea I had though is that, considering the [[Cabal]] have had very little screentime, and that according to their lore they have a massive empire that's on the run, then maybe Oryx has abducted the Cabal emperor. That's be an interesting way to shake things up. | |||
Okay, NEW THEORY: HOW seems to be subtly nodding to Taken King. Eris is seeking help from the Queen to stop Oryx. Taniks invades the Hellmouth and sends out a mysterious transmission. Skolas mumbles about the Light-snuffer, Darkbinder. The Fallen know Oryx is coming, and he is very likely furious. Crota killed by Guardians, his shrine destroyed by Guardians, his sacrifice tainted by Guardians - It's quite obvious that Oryx is out for blood. | |||
UPDATE: Well, I was right about Oryx, and came very close to the Cabal's level of involvement. I should've realized that the name "Taken" should have reminded me of the Dark Patrol concept art of zombified fallen and Cabal. Now would be a good time to go back to all of the original concept art and see what other concepts have yet to be implemented, could give us major clues on what to expect. | |||
===Dredgen Yor and Jaren Ward=== | ===Dredgen Yor and Jaren Ward=== | ||
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===Minions of Darkness=== | ===Minions of Darkness=== | ||
I would be very surprised if the Vex and Hive ever go to war with each other, because they seem to be the only races that ever work for the Darkness directly. The Vex want to take control of reality, while the Hive want to consume the worlds of light and offer them to their gods. The two goals are not mutually exclusive, and both advance the purposes of their master. The Fallen and Cabal however seem to only incidentally serve the Darkness, which is why the Vex attack them. The Fallen and Cabal act as "useful idiots", if you will, putting physical pressure on humanity while the Vex and Hive work on the actual existential threats. | I would be very surprised if the Vex and Hive ever go to war with each other, because they seem to be the only races that ever work for the Darkness directly. The Vex want to take control of reality, while the Hive want to consume the worlds of light and offer them to their gods. The two goals are not mutually exclusive, and both advance the purposes of their master. And upon further reading, it would seem that both the Hive and Vex create realms outside of space and time for their "gods" to inhabit. I would very much like to see if they do in fact work together in some instances. The Fallen and Cabal however seem to only incidentally serve the Darkness, which is why the Vex attack them. The Fallen and Cabal act as "useful idiots", if you will, putting physical pressure on humanity, while the Vex and Hive work on the actual existential threats. The military threat of a Fallen raid or a Cabal invasion is definitely important, but they can't come close to threats such as "altering reality", "consuming the Traveler's Light", or directly bringing about the arrival of the Darkness. | ||
There's one small hiccup to this theory, though. Even though many Vex are called "Zealots" or "Disciples", and the [[Sol Divisive]] are very clearly religious, [[Atheon]]'s name pretty much means "Atheist." Specifically, it means "one who does not follow the gods of larger society." What exactly does this mean? Are the Vex not a hivemind? Do the Programming Collectives have conflicting goals? Why would the religious Vex put one of their most important projects in the hands of an atheist? This bears more research. | |||
<strike>One possible interpretation is that Atheon himself is a "God", in the same sense that the [[Sol Progeny]] might represent Gods as well. And as a god, he would have worshipers (The Supplicants, literally "petitioners" but more precisely those who give humble prayers) but would not himself worship. That's the only reason I can think of.</strike> | |||
It would seem that I missed the "eon" part in Atheon. The name taken as a whole probably means "one who does not believe in time," which would be far mor fitting for the Vex. | |||
===The Jovians and the Nine=== | ===The Jovians and the Nine=== | ||
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I have no evidence to support this, but I wish it were true; the [[Speaker]] is the Traveler himself, or at least a fragment of him. He may or may not be aware of it, but if the Traveler could create the [[Ghost]]s, it stands to reason it also created a guide for human survivors to see them through the dark age. It would explain his connection to the Traveler, and give him a much-needed human touch. | I have no evidence to support this, but I wish it were true; the [[Speaker]] is the Traveler himself, or at least a fragment of him. He may or may not be aware of it, but if the Traveler could create the [[Ghost]]s, it stands to reason it also created a guide for human survivors to see them through the dark age. It would explain his connection to the Traveler, and give him a much-needed human touch. | ||
===The Nine=== | |||
The only information we have on the Nine is Legends two. Each origin seems to contradict each other; but I don't think that is the case. Notice that there are nine origins. I suspect that the Nine refers not to the number of its members, so much as the nine origins of its members. I believe that all these things are true simultaneously, as I believe the Nine and the Jovains to be some kind of amalgam creature. Xur implies, when he says "some of this body's cells originated on this world", that he himself is some kind of composite creature. This explains how the nine can simultaneously be human, awoken, warmind, and leviathan, and so on. | |||
==Story== | ==Story== | ||
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The cutscene afterward is kind of... meh. It just didn't hit home, it felt too much like a cliffhanger but without the tension of one. The stranger should've said something like "We might just survive, but the darkness's minions are still a threat. We need to delay them and the darkness as much as we can until the Traveler comes back to us." So we know that the fight continues, but at least we've made a major step towards winning this war. It's like the ending of Star Wars: A New Hope. The Empire still exists, but the rebels have survived and dealt a major blow to the Empire. The war's not over for them but they have a renewed sense of hope and are able to fight on. But we don't get that here. The Traveler has remained unchanged (as far as we, the audience, can tell) and we're just going to keep doing what we were already doing. Because... uh... | The cutscene afterward is kind of... meh. It just didn't hit home, it felt too much like a cliffhanger but without the tension of one. The stranger should've said something like "We might just survive, but the darkness's minions are still a threat. We need to delay them and the darkness as much as we can until the Traveler comes back to us." So we know that the fight continues, but at least we've made a major step towards winning this war. It's like the ending of Star Wars: A New Hope. The Empire still exists, but the rebels have survived and dealt a major blow to the Empire. The war's not over for them but they have a renewed sense of hope and are able to fight on. But we don't get that here. The Traveler has remained unchanged (as far as we, the audience, can tell) and we're just going to keep doing what we were already doing. Because... uh... | ||
===The Dark Below=== | |||
The story is virtually nonexistant. In-game, anyways. We're told about Eris and her team, about the battle that took place on the moon, and how Crota wiped out thousands of Guardians, but I would've liked to have seen it in the intro cinematic instead of the non-intro we got. Crota would've been clearly established as a godly threat, and his army as a nigh-unstoppable force. Instead they're just regular Hive that are painted yellow. | |||