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|notable= Source of [[Darkness]] <br> Carried by [[The Witness]] into its campaign for the "[[Final Shape]]", later by [[Nezarec, Final God of Pain|Nezarec]] and finally hidden by [[Savathûn]] in [[Neptune]] <br> Discovered by the [[Ishtar Collective]], where it played an important role in the founding of [[Neomuna]] <br> Connected to [[The Traveler]]
|notable= Primordial source of [[Darkness]] <br> Carried by [[The Witness|the Witness]] into its campaign for the "[[Final Shape]]", later by [[Nezarec, Final God of Pain|Nezarec]] and finally hidden by [[Savathûn]] in [[Neptune]] <br> Discovered by the [[Ishtar Collective]], where it played an important role in the founding of [[Neomuna]] <br> Paracausally connected to [[The Traveler|the Traveler]]<br>Source of [[Strand]] found on [[Neomuna]]
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==Overview==
==Overview==
{{Quote|This thing, the Veil. It's... it's some kind of web of consciousness. Just like the Vex network, but organic instead of artificial.|Chioma Esi}}<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=293gPhv_dks&list=PLS2hBTtCDufQ-h9RA3e-GZElbqNS9GyBP&index=11</ref>
The Veil somewhat resembles a plant or jellyfish, with a bulbous, cup-shaped main body, branching root-like tendrils that can rapidly grow and generate an indestructible dome, and an opening on its underside that emits a bright white light. Its upper surface has a large circular opening, within which is what appears to be an energy field decorated with intricate blue and purple patterns.
The Veil somewhat resembles a plant or jellyfish, with a bulbous, cup-shaped main body, branching root-like tendrils that can rapidly grow and generate an indestructible dome, and an opening on its underside that emits a bright white light. Its upper surface has a large circular opening, within which is what appears to be an energy field decorated with intricate blue and purple patterns.


According to [[Rasputin]], the Veil is connected to the [[the Traveler|Traveler]], and upon entering close proximity to the Veil, [[Ghost]] mentions that it gives him a feeling which reminds him of the Traveler. However, it is elsewhere described as an "artifact of [[Darkness]]"<ref>https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/roving?highlight=artifact+of+darkness</ref>, and its presence in Neomuna suffuses the city with [[Strand]] energy - Strand being an elemental manifestation of the Darkness. Furthermore, the [[Radial Mast]] is stated by Ghost to resonate with [[Light]], and Ghost himself is later used by the [[the Witness|Witness]] to interface with the Veil. Collectively, these facts indicate that the Veil is  closely tied to the Darkness, but that it may also have some relationship to the Light and the Traveler.
According to [[Rasputin]], the Veil is connected to [[The Traveler|the Traveler]], and upon entering close proximity to the Veil, [[Ghost]] mentions that it gives him a feeling which reminds him of the Traveler. However, it is elsewhere described as an "artifact of [[Darkness]]"<ref>https://www.ishtar-collective.net/entries/roving?highlight=artifact+of+darkness</ref>, and its presence in Neomuna suffuses the city with [[Strand]] energy - Strand being an elemental manifestation of the Darkness. Furthermore, the [[Radial Mast]] is stated by Ghost to resonate with [[Light]], and Ghost himself is later used by [[The Witness|the Witness]] to interface with the Veil. Collectively, these facts indicate that the Veil is  closely tied to the Darkness, but that it may also have some relationship to the Light and the Traveler.


According to audio logs left by Chioma Esi, the Veil registers as an "electromagnetic anomaly," possessing no mass while having a tangible physical surface; she once described it as "like a thesis statement to the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Neumann%E2%80%93Wigner_interpretation Von Neumann-Wigner Hypothesis],"<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoxf0LFYtNk</ref> seemingly suggesting that its nature points to an interaction between consciousness and quantum mechanics.
According to audio logs left by [[Chioma Esi]], the Veil is determined to be a "web of consciousness" similar to the [[Nexus|Vex network]], but biological in nature rather than artificial.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=293gPhv_dks&list=PLS2hBTtCDufQ-h9RA3e-GZElbqNS9GyBP&index=11</ref> She also noted that the Veil registers as an "electromagnetic anomaly," possessing no mass while having a tangible physical surface; she once described it as "like a thesis statement to the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Neumann%E2%80%93Wigner_interpretation Von Neumann-Wigner Hypothesis],"<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoxf0LFYtNk</ref> seemingly suggesting that its nature points to an interaction between consciousness and quantum mechanics.


==History==
==History==
===The Ancient Past===
===The Ancient Past===
The origins and true nature of the Veil are unknown, but it is known to have existed for billions of years, potentially at least as long as the Traveler. In one of her messages to the Guardian through Sloane, Ahsa makes reference to "''two halves of a whole, long divided''," which in context seems to suggest that the Traveler and Veil were once part of a single entity, or at least share a common origin.
The origins and true nature of the Veil are unknown, but it is known to have existed for billions of years, potentially at least as long as the Traveler. In one of her messages to the Guardian through [[Sloane]], [[Ahsa]] makes reference to "''two halves of a whole, long divided''," which in context seems to suggest that the Traveler and Veil were once part of a single entity, or at least share a common origin.


At some point, the Veil was discovered by an ancient humanoid civilization, who had previously found the Traveler half-buried on their homeworld and had since enjoyed a golden age that had lasted for eons. In their studies of the Traveler, the civilization had determined that it had a counterpart entity in a distant star system. They named this entity "the Veil," and discovered that it was associated with a [[Darkness|force]] opposite to that emanating from the Traveler, one linked to the mind and consciousness rather than the physical universe.
At some point, the Veil was discovered by an ancient humanoid civilization, who had previously found the Traveler half-buried on their homeworld and had since enjoyed a golden age that had lasted for eons. In their studies of the Traveler, the civilization had determined that it had a counterpart entity in a distant star system. They named this entity "the Veil," and discovered that it was associated with a [[Darkness|force]] opposite to that emanating from the Traveler, one linked to the mind and consciousness rather than the physical universe.


The civilization further determined that the Veil and the Traveler were connected in some way, and that by bringing them into close proximity, this connection would be strengthened, and in so doing grant the power to alter the nature of reality. Seeking to obtain this power so as to convert the universe into an eternal, perfected form they called the "[[Final Shape]]", the civilization traveled to the Veil's location and brought it back to their homeworld.
The species traveled to the interstellar location of the Veil and began to study it. Through discovery of the Darkness via the Veil, it was discovered that they could alter the nature of reality to eliminate the chaos of existence. Seeking to obtain this power so as to convert the universe into an eternal, perfected form they called the "[[Final Shape]]", the civilization brought it back to their homeworld.


However, upon attempting to link the Veil and the Traveler, the Traveler left the planet and fled into the far reaches of space. Unwilling to abandon their quest, the civilization used the Darkness to bind their consciousnesses together and merge into a singular entity: [[the Witness]].  
However, upon attempting to link the Veil and the Traveler, the Traveler left the planet and fled into the far reaches of space. Unwilling to abandon their quest, the civilization used the Darkness to bind their consciousnesses together and merge into a singular entity: [[the Witness]].  
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===The Collapse===
===The Collapse===
During the [[Collapse]], the Disciple of the Witness known as Nezarec led the [[Black Fleet]]'s assault on Earth, and managed to secure the Veil aboard his [[Pyramid]]. However, he was betrayed by [[Savathûn]], who killed him, cursed his remains and spirited the Veil away to [[Neptune]]. Osiris speculated that Savathûn may have done this with the express intent of having the Ishtar Collective find the Veil when they subsequently visited the planet.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyLore/comments/11qj6xw/raid_spoilers_the_origins_of_the_veil/</ref>
During the [[Collapse]], the Disciple of the Witness known as [[Nezarec]] led the [[Black Fleet]]'s assault on Earth, and at some point carried the Veil aboard his [[Pyramid]]. However, he was betrayed by [[Savathûn]], who killed him, cursed his remains and spirited the Veil away to [[Neptune]]. Osiris speculated that Savathûn may have done this with the express intent of having the Ishtar Collective find the Veil when they subsequently visited the planet.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyLore/comments/11qj6xw/raid_spoilers_the_origins_of_the_veil/</ref>


It is implied that after the Collapse, the Sol Divisive created the Black Heart at the behest of the [[Witness]], as it hoped to use the Black Heart for the same purpose as the Veil. However, the Black Heart was seemingly a failed replica.
It is implied that after the Collapse, the Sol Divisive created the Black Heart at the behest of the [[Witness]], as it hoped to use the Black Heart for the same purpose as the Veil. However, the Black Heart was seemingly a failed replica.
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Undeterred, and against Chioma's wishes, Maya repeated the test with brain-dead Exos whose minds had been wiped during initial contact with the Veil, placing them in the Veil interface in lieu of biological human participants. In doing so, she reversed the machine's function: whereas previously the system was designed to have a single "conductor" guiding an "orchestra" of participants as they communed with the Veil, this new approach directed data from the assembled Exos into a central recipient. For unknown reasons, Maya had also provided her own mental imprint during the test, to be overlaid on that of the central Exo recipient.  
Undeterred, and against Chioma's wishes, Maya repeated the test with brain-dead Exos whose minds had been wiped during initial contact with the Veil, placing them in the Veil interface in lieu of biological human participants. In doing so, she reversed the machine's function: whereas previously the system was designed to have a single "conductor" guiding an "orchestra" of participants as they communed with the Veil, this new approach directed data from the assembled Exos into a central recipient. For unknown reasons, Maya had also provided her own mental imprint during the test, to be overlaid on that of the central Exo recipient.  


The receiving test subject in this experiment was [[Lakshmi-2]], an Exo Maya had known prior to arriving on Neptune, but who had undergone brain death like all the others brought on the mission. The experiment resulted in Lakshmi awakening, but also with her mind having become either a total or partial copy of Maya's, speaking with Maya's voice and possessing some of her memories.
The receiving test subject in this experiment was [[Lakshmi-2]], an Exo Maya had known prior to arriving on Neptune, but who had undergone brain death like all the others brought on the mission. The experiment resulted in Lakshmi awakening, but also with her mind having become either a total or partial copy of Maya's, speaking with Maya's voice and possessing some of her memories.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woNYh2TPILA</ref>


Little is known of Lakshmi's activities after her revival; at some point she would leave Neptune and return to Earth during the Dark Age, but the circumstances of this are unknown. If she retained memories of the Veil or her origins on Neptune, she never shared them with anyone, at least outside the Future War Cult.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woNYh2TPILA</ref>
Eventually, Maya managed to successfully connect living, human Ishtar Collective researchers to the Veil using her prototype interface, without killing the participants.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=293gPhv_dks&list=PLS2hBTtCDufQ-h9RA3e-GZElbqNS9GyBP&index=11</ref> However, she would later be found dead in the "conductor's chair" of the Veil interface, apparently having tried to connect with the Veil herself for unknown reasons.


===Founding of Neomuna===
===Founding of Neomuna===
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===''Season of the Deep''===
===''Season of the Deep''===
Following Titan's reappearance, Ikora and Osiris noted that the Veil's paracausal signature had become stronger, and speculated that the connection between Titan and the Veil could hold a clue as to how to follow the Witness.<ref>'''Bungie (2019/10/1)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Lightfall]], Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Lore:Purpose|Purpose]] - [[Lore:Purpose#II:Theory|II:Theory]]''</ref>
Following Titan's reappearance, Ikora and Osiris noted that the Veil's paracausal signature had become stronger, and speculated that the connection between Titan and the Veil could hold a clue as to how to follow the Witness.<ref>'''Bungie (2019/10/1)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Lightfall]], Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Lore:Purpose|Purpose]] - [[Lore:Purpose#II:Theory|II:Theory]]''</ref> Osiris would also work with Nimbus in understanding the Veil's role in Neomuna's founding and of its nature. Both soon learn that both Maya Sunderesh and her partner Chioma Esi studied the Veil extensively but as they continued, Maya became more and more obsessive with her research, leading to a fallout to occur between the two scientists. Maya's obsession with the Veil led to some astounding moments, such as the creation of the CloudArk and the creation process of the Cloud Striders. However, it also led to just as many painful moments such as rendering all their Exo patients brain-dead, led the Vex to find Neomuna and the creation of Lakshmi-2 herself before Maya herself was found dead in her lab. Chioma Esi was left shaken to the point of being traumatized by all that had transpired with Maya's research before deciding to lock away the Veil and encrypting her logs, wanting to have Neomuna's future generations start with a clean slate.
 
Osiris would summarize their research as confirming that the Veil is darkness, the power of thought and consciousness, just as the Traveler's Light is the power of the physical plane. Maya's and Chioma's experiences with the Veil would also serve as a cautionary tale in allowing one's obsessions consume their life.
 
===''Season of the Witch''===
Though there were no more logs from Chioma Esi, Osiris managed to decrypt the data core from the [[Conceptual Mind]] the Guardian recovered after its defeat using Esi's algorithm. The data within reveals Vex's blueprints for their artificial Veil: [[The Black Heart]]. Despite making a connection with the Traveler at the time, its design was inherently flawed as it weakened it, and created static in the flow of their cosmic forces, thus not creating the link that The Witness desired. This indicates a possibility that both Traveller and the Veil were once part of a whole.
 
Osiris speculated that when the beam from the Veil was fired at the Traveler, it linked to a point inside of it. And whatever's inside the Traveler is where The Witness is. Thus, when the Traveler went dormant, its attention was directed inward and focused on the true threat.


==Gallery==
==Gallery==
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**The Lore entry "Irrealis" contains the phrase "somewhere, a veil is always lifting" in reference to the timeless nature of the Black Garden.
**The Lore entry "Irrealis" contains the phrase "somewhere, a veil is always lifting" in reference to the timeless nature of the Black Garden.
**The Lore entry "The Witch" describes a "falling veil" that will soon snuff out the Light of Guardians.
**The Lore entry "The Witch" describes a "falling veil" that will soon snuff out the Light of Guardians.
**The D1 Grimoire entry "Ghost Fragment: Future War Cult" contains a FWC member referring to what they call "The Opening of the Veil," a sensation experienced by FWC members making use of the FWC's "Device".
**The D1 Grimoire entry "Ghost Fragment: Future War Cult" contains a FWC member referring to what they call "The Opening of the Veil," a sensation experienced by individuals making use of the FWC's "Device".
*The Veil bears some resemblance to the [[Tree of Silver Wings]] encountered on [[Io]], specifically in having a branching root system and a hollow, cup-shaped "canopy". What significance this resemblance has, if any, is unknown.
**The title of the Lore Book ''Unveiling'' may allude to the Veil.
*The Veil bears some resemblance to the [[Tree of Silver Wings]] encountered on [[Io]] and [[Essence]], specifically in having a branching root system and a hollow, cup-shaped "canopy". What significance this resemblance has, if any, is unknown.
*In a tweet by Bungie lead concept artist [[Dima Goryainov]], the Veil is described as a "physical manifestation of incomprehensible cosmic energy. Window into the mind and memory of the universe". To what degree this description applies to in-game canon is unknown.<ref>https://twitter.com/d_goryainov/status
*In a tweet by Bungie lead concept artist [[Dima Goryainov]], the Veil is described as a "physical manifestation of incomprehensible cosmic energy. Window into the mind and memory of the universe". To what degree this description applies to in-game canon is unknown.<ref>https://twitter.com/d_goryainov/status
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**''[[Season of Defiance]]'' {{C|simulated}}
**''[[Season of Defiance]]'' {{C|simulated}}
**''[[Season of the Deep]]''
**''[[Season of the Deep]]''
**''[[Season of the Witch]]''
**''[[Season of the Wish]]''
*''[[Breakdown]]'' {{Mo}}
*''[[Entelechy]]'' {{Mo}}


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