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The Sword Logic is the foundation of the entire Hive civilization<ref name="Weakness Verse"/> and its hierarchy.<ref name="Hive">'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]] PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XX:_Hive|XX: Hive]]''</ref> Every Hive must prove itself to become greater,<ref name="Carved in Ruin">'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]] Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XXIX:_Carved_in_Ruin|XXIX: Carved in Ruin]]''</ref><ref name="Taken Acolyte">'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]] PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/The_Taken#The_Taken:_Acolyte|The Taken: Acolyte]]''</ref> or risk annihilation.<ref name="Taken Knight">'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]] PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/The_Taken#The_Taken:_Knight|The Taken: Knight]]''</ref><ref name="SCREAM">'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]] PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XXIV:_THE_SCREAM|XXIV: THE SCREAM]]''</ref> This holds true for every Hive, from the tiny [[Thrall]] to the [[Ascendant Hive]] god-kings, including [[Oryx]] and [[Xivu Arath|his]] [[ Savathûn|sisters]]. Even the Worm Gods are not exempt, as evidenced by Oryx slaying [[Akka]] to gain an audience with the [[Darkness]] itself.<ref name="King of Shapes"/> As a byproduct of the pact made with the Worm Gods, when a Hive grows stronger from the killing of lesser life-forms and those which follow the dictates of the Light and the Darkness, so does its internal worm's lust for killing, meaning that unless it is fed enough the worm will eventually consume its host.<ref name="SCREAM"/><ref name="Bargain">'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]] PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#IX:_The_Bargain|IX: The Bargain]]''</ref> | The Sword Logic is the foundation of the entire Hive civilization<ref name="Weakness Verse"/> and its hierarchy.<ref name="Hive">'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]] PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XX:_Hive|XX: Hive]]''</ref> Every Hive must prove itself to become greater,<ref name="Carved in Ruin">'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]] Playstation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XXIX:_Carved_in_Ruin|XXIX: Carved in Ruin]]''</ref><ref name="Taken Acolyte">'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]] PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/The_Taken#The_Taken:_Acolyte|The Taken: Acolyte]]''</ref> or risk annihilation.<ref name="Taken Knight">'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]] PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/The_Taken#The_Taken:_Knight|The Taken: Knight]]''</ref><ref name="SCREAM">'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]] PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XXIV:_THE_SCREAM|XXIV: THE SCREAM]]''</ref> This holds true for every Hive, from the tiny [[Thrall]] to the [[Ascendant Hive]] god-kings, including [[Oryx]] and [[Xivu Arath|his]] [[ Savathûn|sisters]]. Even the Worm Gods are not exempt, as evidenced by Oryx slaying [[Akka]] to gain an audience with the [[Darkness]] itself.<ref name="King of Shapes"/> As a byproduct of the pact made with the Worm Gods, when a Hive grows stronger from the killing of lesser life-forms and those which follow the dictates of the Light and the Darkness, so does its internal worm's lust for killing, meaning that unless it is fed enough the worm will eventually consume its host.<ref name="SCREAM"/><ref name="Bargain">'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]] PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#IX:_The_Bargain|IX: The Bargain]]''</ref> | ||
The [[Leviathan (Fundament)|Leviathan]] knew of the Sword Logic, and claimed that it led to ruin for all who followed its path;<ref>'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]] PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#VIII:_Leviathan|VIII: Leviathan]]''</ref> in contrast the Darkness (and Toland<ref name="Darkness 3"/>) claim that it is a beautiful thing,<ref name="Majestic">'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]] PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XXXII:_Majestic._Majestic.|XXXII: Majestic. Majestic]]''</ref> majestic and noble, and that all life should abide by it as the self-proving reason for existence.<ref name="Majestic"/> However, it unsurprisingly has a corrosive effect on the psyche of the practitioner,<ref name="Dreams">''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]] PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XXXIII:_When_do_monsters_have_dreams|XXXIII: When do monsters have dreams]]''</ref> eventually rendering them into an entirely different creature that would horrify themselves if they could view it objectively.<ref name="Failed Timeline">'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]] PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XLIII:_End_of_Failed_Timeline|XLIII: End of Failed Timeline]]''</ref> For example, after untold millennia of practicing the sword logic, the emotions of love and hate gradually became indistinguishable to the Hive, and the same may have happened to joy and sorrow.<ref>'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]] PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XXIII:_fire_without_fuel|XXIII: fire without fuel]]''</ref> Indeed, even Savathûn, who convinced Oryx originally to find the Worms, expresses doubt as to the validity of their crusade.<ref>'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]] PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XLIV:_strict_proof_eternal|XLIV: strict proof eternal]]''</ref> | The [[Leviathan (Fundament)|Leviathan]] knew of the Sword Logic, and claimed that it led to ruin for all who followed its path;<ref>'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]] PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#VIII:_Leviathan|VIII: Leviathan]]''</ref> in contrast the Darkness (and Toland<ref name="Darkness 3"/>) claim that it is a beautiful thing,<ref name="Majestic">'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]] PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XXXII:_Majestic._Majestic.|XXXII: Majestic. Majestic]]''</ref> majestic and noble, and that all life should abide by it as the self-proving reason for existence.<ref name="Majestic"/> However, it unsurprisingly has a corrosive effect on the psyche of the practitioner,<ref name="Dreams">'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]] PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XXXIII:_When_do_monsters_have_dreams|XXXIII: When do monsters have dreams]]''</ref> eventually rendering them into an entirely different creature that would horrify themselves if they could view it objectively.<ref name="Failed Timeline">'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]] PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XLIII:_End_of_Failed_Timeline|XLIII: End of Failed Timeline]]''</ref> For example, after untold millennia of practicing the sword logic, the emotions of love and hate gradually became indistinguishable to the Hive, and the same may have happened to joy and sorrow.<ref>'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]] PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XXIII:_fire_without_fuel|XXIII: fire without fuel]]''</ref> Indeed, even Savathûn, who convinced Oryx originally to find the Worms, expresses doubt as to the validity of their crusade.<ref>'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]] PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XLIV:_strict_proof_eternal|XLIV: strict proof eternal]]''</ref> | ||
Although the Sword Logic is treated by the Hive as a central commandment of the Darkness, a somewhat cryptic statement by [[Savathûn]] seems to suggest that the Sword Logic is only one of many ways of achieving the will of the Darkness, and that she herself specifically chose the Sword Logic as the Hive's guiding principle because she knew that it would ensure the Hive's future supremacy.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyLore/comments/11ozam5/lightfall_spoilers_root_of_nightmares_full_lore/</ref> | Although the Sword Logic is treated by the Hive as a central commandment of the Darkness, a somewhat cryptic statement by [[Savathûn]] seems to suggest that the Sword Logic is only one of many ways of achieving the will of the Darkness, and that she herself specifically chose the Sword Logic as the Hive's guiding principle because she knew that it would ensure the Hive's future supremacy.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyLore/comments/11ozam5/lightfall_spoilers_root_of_nightmares_full_lore/</ref> | ||
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After the deaths of Oryx and Crota at the hands of Light-bearing Guardians, more Hive had chosen to go against the Sword Logic for the sake of survival,<ref>'''Bungie (2019/10/29)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Shadowkeep]], Item Description: [[Apostate]]''</ref> turning to the ritualistic taboos of necromancy like Nokris before and even forming their own tithing system like [[Savathûn]], who created the concept of [[Imbaru]] as an alternative means to gain tribute through acts of cunning and deception.<ref>'''Bungie (2018/8/29)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Forsaken]], Activision Blizzard, Lore: [[Lore:Truth to Power|Thank you]]''</ref> Even the surviving daughters of Crota committed their own heresy by remaking [[Zulmak, Instrument of Torment]] into a Hive abomination infused with the essence of [[Nightmares]].<ref>'''Bungie (2019/10/29)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Shadowkeep]], Item Description: [[Heretic]]''</ref> With the arrival of the [[Pyramids]], Eris Morn surmised the Hive committing more empowered or self-destructive sorcery out of desperation in an future arms race for the [[Witness]] and its gifts.<ref>'''Bungie (2020/10/6)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Season of Arrivals]], Lore: [[Lore:The Singular Exegete#CONTACT|CONTACT]]''</ref> | After the deaths of Oryx and Crota at the hands of Light-bearing Guardians, more Hive had chosen to go against the Sword Logic for the sake of survival,<ref>'''Bungie (2019/10/29)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Shadowkeep]], Item Description: [[Apostate]]''</ref> turning to the ritualistic taboos of necromancy like Nokris before and even forming their own tithing system like [[Savathûn]], who created the concept of [[Imbaru]] as an alternative means to gain tribute through acts of cunning and deception.<ref>'''Bungie (2018/8/29)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Forsaken]], Activision Blizzard, Lore: [[Lore:Truth to Power|Thank you]]''</ref> Even the surviving daughters of Crota committed their own heresy by remaking [[Zulmak, Instrument of Torment]] into a Hive abomination infused with the essence of [[Nightmares]].<ref>'''Bungie (2019/10/29)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Shadowkeep]], Item Description: [[Heretic]]''</ref> With the arrival of the [[Pyramids]], Eris Morn surmised the Hive committing more empowered or self-destructive sorcery out of desperation in an future arms race for the [[Witness]] and its gifts.<ref>'''Bungie (2020/10/6)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Season of Arrivals]], Lore: [[Lore:The Singular Exegete#CONTACT|CONTACT]]''</ref> | ||
Though seen as a heretical sect, the Hive of the [[Lucent Brood]] still conduct the Sword Logic even if they had become blessed by the Traveler's Light. In one of these instances, a Knight battled a [[Lightbearer Wizard]] in which both would continue to kill each other, invoking "Existence is worthiness, That which cannot defend itself must die. This is the one true shape. Aiat," restating the Sword Logic's first tenet.<ref>'''Bungie (2023/8/22)''', ''[[Destiny 2]]: [[Season of the Witch]], [[Hexed Shell]] [[Hexed Shell#Lore|Lore]]</ref> | |||
==Relations to other races== | ==Relations to other races== | ||