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Ascendant realms have a connection to the Deep, the Worm Gods naturally living close to that connection while Oryx built a pathway and altar to communicate.<ref name="King"/> If one of the Hive Gods is slain in the material world, or in another god's Ascendant realm, their soul will pass to their throne where they will regain their strength until they can re-enter the material world; this can potentially be accelerated by the sacrifice of lesser Hive.<ref>'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, ''"The soul of a Hive is sleeping inside. The Disciples of Osiris believe Ascendant Hive can be reborn in our realm when the time is right and with the sacrifice of lesser Hive souls. I think this one is marked for sacrifice"'', [http://www.ishtar-collective.net/transcripts/ghost-scan-sacrificial-stone Ghost Scans]: Sacrificial Stone''</ref> If they are killed within their own throne, they will die permanently.<ref name="Weak"/> The lesser Hive may enter the Ascendant realm at will,<ref name="Crota"/> but only if they are [[Ascendant Hive]], those Hive warriors who command legions of lesser soldiers and can pay a tithe of death and destruction to the Hive god who rules them.<ref name="Carved"/>
Ascendant realms have a connection to the Deep, the Worm Gods naturally living close to that connection while Oryx built a pathway and altar to communicate.<ref name="King"/> If one of the Hive Gods is slain in the material world, or in another god's Ascendant realm, their soul will pass to their throne where they will regain their strength until they can re-enter the material world; this can potentially be accelerated by the sacrifice of lesser Hive.<ref>'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, ''"The soul of a Hive is sleeping inside. The Disciples of Osiris believe Ascendant Hive can be reborn in our realm when the time is right and with the sacrifice of lesser Hive souls. I think this one is marked for sacrifice"'', [http://www.ishtar-collective.net/transcripts/ghost-scan-sacrificial-stone Ghost Scans]: Sacrificial Stone''</ref> If they are killed within their own throne, they will die permanently.<ref name="Weak"/> The lesser Hive may enter the Ascendant realm at will,<ref name="Crota"/> but only if they are [[Ascendant Hive]], those Hive warriors who command legions of lesser soldiers and can pay a tithe of death and destruction to the Hive god who rules them.<ref name="Carved"/>


Other beings can apparently and independently enter the Ascendant plane separate from the Darkness, as evidenced when the [[Harmony]] wishful bishops "wrestled" with Xivu Arath near her throne.<ref name="Gift">'''Bungie (2015/15/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]], PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XLVI:_The_Gift_Mast|XLVI: The Gift Mast]]''</ref> [[Hiraks, the Mindbender]] is also a powerful example, as he fell into the [[Hellmouth]] as a [[Dreg]] and somehow gained Ascendant status, forging his own throne within the Ascendant realm.
Other beings can apparently and independently enter the Ascendant plane separate from the Darkness, as evidenced when the [[Harmony]] wishful bishops "wrestled" with Xivu Arath near her throne.<ref name="Gift">'''Bungie (2015/15/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: [[The Taken King]], PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Enemies/Books_of_Sorrow#XLVI:_The_Gift_Mast|XLVI: The Gift Mast]]''</ref> [[Hiraks, the Mindbender]] is also a powerful example, as he fell into the [[Hellmouth]] as a [[Dreg]] and somehow gained Ascendant status, forging his own throne within the Ascendant realm.<ref name=GameInformer>[https://www.gameinformer.com/2018/07/05/these-are-the-eight-barons-who-helped-kill-cayde-6-in-destiny-2-forsaken '''Game Informer''': ''These Are The Eight Barons Who Helped Kill Cayde-6 In Destiny 2: Forsaken'']</ref>


The Ascendant realm can also seemingly pull locations in our world into itself as well, as it did with the [[Dreaming City]].<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyLore/comments/8vwncp/possible_spoilers_dreaming_city/</ref> Asteroid 128 Nemesis within [[The Reef]] also phase shifts between our world and the Ascendant realm, due to experimentation upon it by [[Hiraks, the Mindbender]].
The Ascendant realm can also seemingly pull locations in our world into itself as well, as it did with the [[Dreaming City]].<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyLore/comments/8vwncp/possible_spoilers_dreaming_city/</ref> Asteroid 128 Nemesis within [[The Reef]] also phase shifts between our world and the Ascendant realm, due to experimentation upon it by [[Hiraks, the Mindbender]].<ref name=GameInformer/>


==History==
==History==
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Only five times have been recorded in which these realms were breached: the [[Vex]]; the Harmony wishful bishops; and twice by the [[Guardian]]s of [[Earth]]. The Vex were let into the High War by Savathûn tricking her nephew and proved difficult to dislodge.<ref name="Partition"/> Later the Harmony wishful bishops stalemated with Xivu Arath until her sister came to her aid.<ref name="Gift"/> Finally, many years later, Crota's own realm was [[Crota's End|breached]] and the God-Prince killed;<ref>'''Bungie (2014/9/12)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Activities/Raids#Crota.27s_End|Crota's End]]''</ref> and Oryx's invaded twice by Guardians, who first [[Regicide|killed]] his material form and later [[King's Fall|hunted]] his true self to extinction.<ref>'''Bungie (2015/15/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Activities/Raids#King.27s_Fall|King's Fall]]''</ref> The sole exception is [[Toland, the Shattered]]; instead of breaching it, Toland was ''allowed'' to enter the Ascendant plane by [[Ir Yût]], who did so by killing him with her Deathsong. This gave him greater insight into the Hive, but his true purpose was to search for [[Osiris]].<ref name = "Hellmouth"/>
Only five times have been recorded in which these realms were breached: the [[Vex]]; the Harmony wishful bishops; and twice by the [[Guardian]]s of [[Earth]]. The Vex were let into the High War by Savathûn tricking her nephew and proved difficult to dislodge.<ref name="Partition"/> Later the Harmony wishful bishops stalemated with Xivu Arath until her sister came to her aid.<ref name="Gift"/> Finally, many years later, Crota's own realm was [[Crota's End|breached]] and the God-Prince killed;<ref>'''Bungie (2014/9/12)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Activities/Raids#Crota.27s_End|Crota's End]]''</ref> and Oryx's invaded twice by Guardians, who first [[Regicide|killed]] his material form and later [[King's Fall|hunted]] his true self to extinction.<ref>'''Bungie (2015/15/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, [[Grimoire]]: [[Grimoire:Activities/Raids#King.27s_Fall|King's Fall]]''</ref> The sole exception is [[Toland, the Shattered]]; instead of breaching it, Toland was ''allowed'' to enter the Ascendant plane by [[Ir Yût]], who did so by killing him with her Deathsong. This gave him greater insight into the Hive, but his true purpose was to search for [[Osiris]].<ref name = "Hellmouth"/>


At some point, [[Hiraks, the Mindbender|Hiraks]] fell into the [[Hellmouth]], surviving and learning to harness the power of the realm for his own purposes. He later used the power to pull Asteroid 128 Nemesis between our world and the Ascendant realm.
At some point, [[Hiraks, the Mindbender|Hiraks]] fell into the [[Hellmouth]], surviving and learning to harness the power of the realm for his own purposes. He later used the power to pull Asteroid 128 Nemesis between our world and the Ascendant realm.<ref name=GameInformer/>


Despite Oryx's defeat, a number of worrying reports during the [[Red War]] indicate that [[Savathûn|something]] is trying to communicate from the Ascendant realm to scattered Hive forces on [[Io]].<ref>'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, ''"I think these blights are like transmitters. They're either calling out to something, or... letting something whisper to the Taken here on Io"'', [[Ghost Scans]]: IO-WM-3''</ref><ref>'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, ''"Ascendant Realm readings in spades here. Down the line this could be another one of those weird portals. The Taken are so strange"'', [[Ghost Scans]]: IO-EXS-1''</ref><ref>'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, ''"Listen. It sounds like... It sounds like someone's whispering in there. Over and over". Eugh'', [[Ghost Scans]]: IO-EXS-2''</ref><ref>'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, ''"I'm detecting… I think this is sending a message back to the Ascendant Realm. But who's listening?"'', [http://www.ishtar-collective.net/transcripts/ghost-scan-excavation-site-ii-io-3 Ghost Scan: Excavation Site II, Io, #3]: IO-EXS-3''</ref><ref>'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, ''"This is sending out some kind of resonant signal. The same syllables, over and over: Sa... Va... Thun..."'', [[Ghost Scans]]: IO-TBC-3''</ref>
Despite Oryx's defeat, a number of worrying reports during the [[Red War]] indicate that [[Savathûn|something]] is trying to communicate from the Ascendant realm to scattered Hive forces on [[Io]].<ref>'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, ''"I think these blights are like transmitters. They're either calling out to something, or... letting something whisper to the Taken here on Io"'', [[Ghost Scans]]: IO-WM-3''</ref><ref>'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, ''"Ascendant Realm readings in spades here. Down the line this could be another one of those weird portals. The Taken are so strange"'', [[Ghost Scans]]: IO-EXS-1''</ref><ref>'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, ''"Listen. It sounds like... It sounds like someone's whispering in there. Over and over". Eugh'', [[Ghost Scans]]: IO-EXS-2''</ref><ref>'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, ''"I'm detecting… I think this is sending a message back to the Ascendant Realm. But who's listening?"'', [http://www.ishtar-collective.net/transcripts/ghost-scan-excavation-site-ii-io-3 Ghost Scan: Excavation Site II, Io, #3]: IO-EXS-3''</ref><ref>'''Bungie (2017/8/9)''', ''[[Destiny]]: PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, ''"This is sending out some kind of resonant signal. The same syllables, over and over: Sa... Va... Thun..."'', [[Ghost Scans]]: IO-TBC-3''</ref>
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*[[Oversoul Throne]]—realm of Crota.<ref>'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]], PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Story Mission [[Last Rites]]''</ref>
*[[Oversoul Throne]]—realm of Crota.<ref>'''Bungie (2015/9/15)''', ''[[Destiny]], PlayStation 4, Activision Blizzard, Story Mission [[Last Rites]]''</ref>
*[[Dreaming City]]—abandoned City that is the homeland of the [[Awoken]] race. Warped by a [[Taken]] curse. It is partially within the real world and the Ascendant realm.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyLore/comments/8vwncp/possible_spoilers_dreaming_city/</ref>
*[[Dreaming City]]—abandoned City that is the homeland of the [[Awoken]] race. Warped by a [[Taken]] curse. It is partially within the real world and the Ascendant realm.<ref>https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyLore/comments/8vwncp/possible_spoilers_dreaming_city/</ref>
* Asteroid 128 Nemesis - Experimentation by Hiraks, the Mindbender led to this asteroid being repeatedly pulled between the Ascendant Realm and our dimension.<ref name=GameInformer/>


==List of appearances==
==List of appearances==
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