Forum talk:Fallen Walker vs. Goliath Tank

I believe the Fallen Walker will have a slight advantage with its Shanks against the Tank. I suppose the anti-personnel turrets of the Goliath Tank would deal with them quickly but as we've seen in fighting the Walker can summon large numbers of them. That would give them an edge. Too many smaller targets to hit. Dante the Ghost (talk) 12:42, 11 June 2016 (EDT)


 * But the Goliath can find ways around that. For one, it can move extremely quickly for a tank, so it can simply avoid them. And even if the Shanks could catch up to it, the Tank has two other mechanics that can eliminate Shanks in addition to the machine gun turrets. If the Shanks get too close, the Goliath could send out a jet of energy at them to set them on fire, or it could also use flak turrets to strike them if they pass overhead. Just a thought. Primus Draug'oth (talk) 23:49, 11 June 2016 (EST)


 * Yes, there is that, and Shanks tend to be Solar-shielded, so up against the Tank they'd be toast. The Fallen Walker is slow and clumsy -- as far as we've seen -- while the Goliath is fast and nimble. But it an unfair contest anyway because the Cabal are a professional military, a few "scout-legions" that were exiled from their homeworlds when they went to war, and massive warships and carriers that transports hundreds upon thousands of their troops and equipment. Meanwhile, the Fallen are barely scraping along, trying their damndest to reclaim the Great Machine, throwing everything they have at the Last City and generally wasting their strength. Meanwhile the Cabal don't even care about the Traveler. It would be a short battle anyway. Now, if Skolas had been able to rally every House to his banner, and focused on rebuilding their former glory, then the Walker would perhaps be much different than the broken down versions we've been facing. Dante the Ghost (talk) 00:11, 12 June 2016 (EDT)


 * You're right; it would be a bit unfair to access considering that one has the advantage in mobility and firepower while the other has to rely on support and can get staggered. But it would still be interesting to see, wouldn't you agree? Besides, the Fallen have clashed with the Cabal once, specifically the House of Wolves, and they deployed a Walker on Mars once. That's what inspired me to figure out what would happen if the Cabal decided to deploy a Goliath on the battlefield to try and destroy the spider tank. And yes, thank God Skolas wasn't able to unite all the Fallen Houses because we wouldn't let him, although he was able get his hands on Vex tech, which could've been infused into the Walker to make it more powerful. A spider tank made from metal scrap enhanced with time-traveling and altering abilities...that would make for a scary and overwhelming boss battle, even scarier than the Goliath, although the Cabal have also tried to capture Vex artifacts that could grant them a special advantage. I swear, if a Goliath were also enhanced with Vex tech...Well, I'm torn now. Primus Draug'oth (talk) 08:52, 12 June 2016


 * Remember that Skolas only went after Vex technology in order to bring back his entire House through time, and perhaps even, space. He was desperate and mad, for no-one in their right minds would attack the Vex, especially the Vault of Glass. However he made it, and if you consider he had lots of loyal Dregs as cannon-fodder, Vandals to serve as mowers of adds, and possibly any Wolf Captains that survived to use the plates and other Vault gear to open things. And because we have destroy Atheon, and the Templar, he had an easy time of it. Presumably, we also destroyed the Gorgons, or else they abandoned the Vault to protect themselves.


 * Skolas' ultimate goal was to secure the Great Machine, and when that failed, losing almost all his House thanks to us, the Queen's Wrath, and Variks, the Loyal's incessant attempts to capture his highest ranking nobility, only then did he go to the Vex. It wasn't his Plan B until he made it.


 * But, should he have united all of the Fallen Houses, the Cabal would have had a force to reckon with after us and the Vex. Dregs throwing themselves at the shield walls, wearing them down while Vandals picked up the pieces, Captains ordering their troops about and a plentiful supply of ether flowing from every single Servitor out there. Then Oryx would have had another larger army to raise instead of the dregs and outcasts of the Fallen Houses.


 * And don't forget that Vex technology can make you go mad and kill you. Ask the Ishtar Collective. Dante the Ghost (talk) 13:28, 12 June 2016 (EDT)